Christianity, really?

Depends on who's cooking.

 

From a young age children are selfish little bastards, they scream when they don't get what they want, and they steal other kids toys.

If Christianity is true, I don't believe god would judge kids, but their lives demonstraight our sinful nature

 

To affix it I just type it in like this; the year 455 B.C.E.
Just kidding.

To determine the time of the Messiah’s arrival, first we need to learn the starting point of the period leading to the Messiah. According to the prophecy, it is “from the going forth of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem.” When did this “going forth of the word” take place? According to the Bible writer Nehemiah, the word went forth to rebuild the walls around Jerusalem “in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king.” (Nehemiah 2:1, 5-8) Historians confirm that the year 474 B.C.E. was Artaxerxes’ first full year as ruler. Therefore, the 20th year of his rule was 455 B.C.E. Now we have the starting point for Daniel’s Messianic prophecy, that is, 455 B.C.E.

 

From the article you cite:
WEATHER AND CLIMATE IN PALESTINE

The climate of Palestine for the greater part of the year is pleasant. Winter lasts for three months, from mid-December to mid-March, and can be severe.

And here is an example from 1992:
“HEAVY Snow Paralyzes Jerusalem” and “Snowy Siege Staggers the North.” Such headlines in The Jerusalem Post became second nature for Israeli readers in 1992, in what proved to be one of Israel’s hardest winters of the century.

By January the summit of Mount Hermon was covered with 22 to 40 feet [7-12 m] of snow, and the winter was far from over. From the Golan Heights and Upper Galilee down past Jerusalem and nearby Bethlehem (seen on the cover), even on south into the Negeb, time and again Israeli daily life and routine were paralyzed by a graceful and delicate, yet potent, visitor. One Jerusalem Post article stated: “Heavy snowfalls succeeded yesterday in doing what a rain of Katyusha rockets last week failed to do, closing settlements and keeping residents firmly entrenched in their homes.”

The harsh winter brought havoc to more than city dwellers. Reports came in of hundreds of cows and calves, as well as thousands of chickens, that froze to death as nighttime temperatures plummeted below freezing. As if the snow were not enough, heavy, frigid rains also took their toll. One day, two young shepherd boys, apparently trying desperately to save a number of their sheep that were caught in a flash flood, were themselves swept away and drowned in the torrent.

Although this was not a typical Middle Eastern winter, the Israeli magazine Eretz reported: “The meteorological data that has been collected and recorded in the land of Israel for the past 130 years reveals that snow in Jerusalem is a more common phenomenon than might be expected . . . Between 1949 and 1980, the city of Jerusalem had twenty-four snowy winters.”



It hardly seems like winter is a good time to be living out doors and I'm not insinuating that the time of Jesus' birth and the winter solstice share no similarities, I'm flat out saying they don't

 

From what the Bible says, young children are under the auspices of their parents until they are old enough to decide for themselves. So when God judges, he judges the parents and the children will, for the most part, fall in with their parents. The old, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, kind of thing.

 

Using current climate patterns and current agricultural practices to affix a 2,000 year old date is a very iffy proposition. Let's have some ice core evidence, preserved pollen counts etc.. Saharan Africa was at one time lush and the current dessert expanse grows larger every year. Waterbrother thank you for #43.
I myself do not observe "holidays", only this moments sabbath.

 

Even if you can't prove that Jesus was born in october, the dicision to make Christmas on December 25 was not based off of Jesus' actual birthday. It simply replaced the pagan holiday that already fell on that day.

 

This is true. Which is why when I celebrate Christmas I only celebrate the "commercial" side of it, the Santa Claus and reindeer bits. Mostly because I've got a child and it's exciting for us.
It's not really about Jesus at all, so why mark the so called "religious" side of Christmas? I personally will not be celebrating it as "Jesus's birth" at all.

Also this disproves the whole theory of Jesus being astrological, "Jesus the sun of God" nonsense. It all hinges on Jesus being born on the 25th December, and he almost certainly was not.

 

You're welcome.

 

I agree. personally, I believe anything that was brought into Christianity from outside, from the "pagan" world, should be removed and should not be part of Christian worship.

 

This is an interesting way of looking at it.

Even when I did celebrate Christmas and didn't know it was a "pagan" holiday, I never did think of it as "religious", more of a time for family to get together than something that had to do with Christianity or religion.

But now that I know it's "pagan" origins, I just don't bother with it.

 

My fiance happens to be pagan so we're celebrating yule this year instead of Christmas. I do find it ironic that almost every single "Christian Holiday" comes from pagan roots, including easter. Granted we can thank Constantine in all his pagan greatness for most of this.

 

All this demonstrates is that they had not learned about or to respect the concept of property or learned yet to speak. There is no "human nature" but there is human behavior and behavior is determined by relationship with the environment.

 

If you wish to celebrate pagan holidays, that is your decision, sounds like you'll probably have a good time.

My problem is mostly with people who take pagan holidays and try to dress them up so they can pass them off as Christian.

If you want to be a Pagan, fine be a Pagan and if you want to be a Christian, fine be a Christian, just don't try to mix the two.

 

And the scriptures you use to back this up?

 

Agreed.

 

I've raised children. I noticed that they have inherently no concept of mine or yours and their tendency to scream diminishes when they learn to express themselves through language. I do not need a scripture to describe to me what occurs in my own house.
Again, unless our righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees we shall not enter the kingdom.
Exceeds what is described or prescribed, or demonstrated. We do not let our right hand know what the left is doing.
As a way of stimulating examination, Paul was a scribe as well as a Pharisee, and a zealot insists on his own way.

 

Once again; And the scriptures you use to back up your original statement?

 

What part of the statement do you feel needs to be backed up?

 

All of it. Now stop stalling.