Christianity, really?

"This isn't Sanctuary so I'll try to keep Scripture quoting to a minimum."

I thought the traditional writing was for the Sanctuary, because that is where the Christianity of varied sects (is the revival theme refuseable) was discoursed. But then the Christianity section was for the knowledge of general seasons and changes of that sort.

Just to set the record straight for the strangers and acquaintances crowd. I'm politically incorrect.

 

Yes

 

If you read the guidelines for both forums, the Christianity forum says no Scripture quoting and the Sanctuary forum says that you can quote Scripture.

 

So when it says the word was with god and the word WAS god, how doesthat work?

(I'm sorry to change the subject, but I'd like to understand your view of Christianity better)

 

Keep in mind, here..that when God created us, he did so in love and let us make our own decisions. While knowing what would happen, still? Yes. because He loves us and will not take away our free will. It's like having a child..if you knew that they would make some mistakes with their life, would you lock them in their room til they died and tell them you wont let them come out because you know what will happen, or would you actually give them the chance to make that choice, knowing in the end their still your child and they will learn eventually.

Keeping in mind, also..that God is the ultimate state of being and there is something more than living on this earth...so even if you do screw up your life here and die some terrible way...He's still there waiting on the other side for our souls.

But ya...like I said...it's been millions of years of free will that has screwed us all up.

 

When something good happens, God did it.

When something bad happens, God does not interfere.

God is all-forgiving but sends people to hell for sins
-Knows all and is totally surprised when we sin
-People who do not know about Jesus are fucked


Trying to convince someone to stop eating salvation flavored bullshit is way to difficult. Let them believe in it. Make your own god and leave the simpletons to their religion.

 

hmmm.... its actuly not really like that at all.

Its more like having a child, and leaving him alone in a room with a loaded gun and telling him not to touch it. Then turning on a tv show about how to shoot a gun, that makes guns seem super cool and awsum. If you hadnt put the gun, or even the video there, the kid would have been fine.

what was the point in putting the tree in the garden? without knowlage of good and evil, humans still did have free will, just no desire to do evil.

 

Like I said;

There are two ways that John 1:1 has been translated. One, that the word was God or two, the word was a god or divine.

In the original language there is no definite article before the word "theos", thus it does not say the Word is "the" God and so can be translated as "a" god or as the quality of being divine.

Since Jesus was in Isaiah 9:6 prophesized to be, not almighty God but as a mighty god, I would say that it is saying that the Word is a God like one or similar in nature to God but not God himself.

Which to me seems to be supported by the rest of John 1:1-18 as I pointed out.

 

The discussion means in the terms of what we believe in, not the mighty God, but the God that was taught to us. I tend to feel that there-is God as the Nature for implicit nature, ad that's the One we believe in for the varied biases we are apt to come towards in the models we are appropriately 'Fathered" to. Everybody perceives his experiment of Life in different ways. The tree of Life meant that. It was the available trusted way to appreciate, but so often what is available is only reviewed for aesthetic appraisal, and left by the wayside. The way of access by experiment was blocked from self-consciousness, moral, mind you, self-consciousness.

We self-realize the ambition to detach the appearance and discover in the time of our day-to-day mundanity. That again is represented in the Godhead of imagined negative unity, the trinitized: Godhead was me, falling short of the Glory of let's say, Galilleo. :deadxmas:

 

And what are we to make of the fact that Jesus is not mentioned in Isaiah at all. The names that Isaiah speaks could be applied to anyone.
I have been cursed daily. At the same time there are those who would stand before the world and testify that I was the exact identity of the one in whose ear they had whispered sweet nothings.

 

Is it any more brilliant of you to make demons for us?

 

To anyone?

I suppose that means that you think of yourself as Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace and that you sit upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness, from now on and to time indefinite.

Yeah right.

 

Actually I consider myself loved and cared for by my creator and that I live in a world of equal brethren in every direction.

 

Sorry, the dope, but I don't see Psalm 22 matching you at all

 

I am not sure why you would apologize to me for not accomplishing something that I never asked you to do in the first place. I am not seeking any level of attainment. I am here by virtue of the admonition to share what I have.

 

Hell is in the fucking Bible. Pagan doctrine?

That's only because you're not God. Omniscient and omnipotent, and able to keep it from happening.

 

I would like to point out the fact that up untill the new testement no where in the bible is "sin" actually named, or at least not in the original Tanakh texts. As a matter of fact in base jewish teaching all man is born inherently good, so as such there is no need of mass redemption and a "saving God". The very idea that man is sinful, even that there is a hell or a "satan" is very much against the original writings of the Old Testement. The idea of "original sin" was first introduced by Paul, and through out history it has been used as a means to take the people's money and keep the masses in thrull

 

So by saying this you would admit to believing that any child no matter how young if they were to die would go directly to hell for being an "unknowing sinner"? Does this not mean that even children who died in miscarriages, during birth, or right there after would be condemned to that fate as well?

 

Did you know that the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil are both pagan concepts? Or how about the interesting fact that many of the gospels so called "historic" accounts can be traced back to pagan myths thousands of years before the birth of Christ? Here are some links to back up my words
Plagiarised Gospels
Copied from others?
Other Deities

Nothing in the gospels is original, most of Jesus' own "miracles" had been done many times before. Even the "Christian" concept of the Trinity is pagan in origin. Many pagans, my wife included worship a trinity known as the Mother, the Maiden, and the Crone. Sound somewhat familiar?

 

What are you categorizing demons as?