"CHRISTIANS": It's Time To Put Up or Shut Up

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Libertine, Aug 14, 2005.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well I agree with you 50%. I believe it was written by man, but authored by God. I only say that, because the prophecies are to detailed, and by this time, much of this prophecy should of been messed up by now.
     
  2. campbell34

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    And you claim I twist things. I said you find it easier to call me a Liar, than to say Jesus Christ is. If you don't believe the God of the Bible, don't attack me for repeating His words. I said nothing about me being Jesus Christ. That came out of your own imagination.
     
  3. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    In order for me to update the Bible I would have to know the future. I don't need to up date the Bible because the Book has already proven that it knows the Future, Thats how those ministers back in the 1600s and the 1800s knew the Jews would return to Israel and recapture Jerusalem. Sorry, I'm afraid the Bible knows a lot more about the future than you or I. The Bible even states that when the Anti-Christ comes they will make an Image of him and breath life into it. And the image will both breath and speak. And the Image will be set up in the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem, and the population of earth will be commanded to worship it. And if you refuse, you will be put to death. It also states that everyone that worships it will be given a mark on their right hand or forhead. And with out the mark, you will not be able to buy or sell. The mark will have the number 666.
     
  4. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    The Bible states that the natural man will not understand the things of the spirit because they are spiritually deserened. I know that for a fact. Some time ago I ask God to reveal some of the prophecies in the Book to me. For almost a year I got nothing. Then when I and my family went up on my wifes uncles farm, God started to show me things and most of what I learned came to me on the third day. It was not my wisdom or understanding that led me to this understanding. The Bible said the Holy Spirit would teach you all things. The deeper things of the Scriptures with out Gods direction will just confuse most. I told God that I was just a blue collar kind of guy and there was a lot of things in His book I just did not understand. And I simply ask Him to help me. Christ has stated you have not because you ask not. Put God to the test, ask Him to reveal Himself to you. Tell Him if He is Jesus Christ to let you know. If you really want to know if Jesus Christ is God, ask Him. He works in strange ways.
     
  5. half a hippie

    half a hippie Member

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    Thats cool
    When is this happening ?
     
  6. Francisco

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    the answer of a pharisee to the utmost, "those who compass land and sea to
    make one convert for their religious system and then that convert becomes
    two fold the child of death they themselves are".......period.......

    oh, how strong is the "strong delusion" that is pagan "christianity;-((((((

    "d"evil said to The Messiah, "If you are the Son of GOD, throw yourself down
    from this cliff, for it is written, 'The ONLY TRUE GOD has told HIS angels to
    look after you. In their hands they will hold you up. Then your foot will not
    even hit against a stone.'"

    "and The Messiah answered him, "It is also written, 'Do not put The ONLY
    TRUE GOD to the test.'"

    c34 believes that the imagined pagan "jesus" of "catholicism" and her harlot
    "christian" daughters, is his "god" ;-((((((

    and The Messiah testified, "I ascend to My GOD and My Father, HE WHO is
    The GOD and Father of My Brethren".......period.......

    and The Messiah testified of "The ONLY TRUE GOD".......period.......
    and He testified "that there is none Good but The ONLY TRUE GOD"!

    oh, c34 hears voices alright, question is whose voice? for the "jesus" of
    pagan "christianity" is but the imagined name given an imagined "god".
    a name for "the angel of light", he who but serves "the god of this world",
    he who is "the father of lies".......period.......

    "DO NOT PUT THE ONLY TRUE GOD TO THE TEST!

    and to ask? yes that is a good thing, however, in the asking there must
    be a heart that speaks, "this is my request, nevertheless Father you know
    what is best, let it be according to YOUR Will".......period.......

    as The Messiah did, so also will His Brethren desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

    so simple that Children who know, 'Father knows best', will understand!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
    ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I think I'll sit back and watch Franco & Campbell tear their own religion apart. ;)
     
  8. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    oh no, it's you and campbell, you are the "chrisitians".......period.......

    you're "braindirtyed" to the utmost ;-((((((

    you, just as the "christian's" do, just change a word here, and a word there,
    add a little, take a little, or ignore this and that, and you do so to establish
    your own religious systematic doctrinal theo'ry'logy ;-((((((

    and as "chiristianity" changed Messiah to "christ" and then gave their
    "god" "christ" the imagined name of "jesus", you also have decided that
    "put up" needed to go because your religion would better be served by
    " put up or i will "ignore you"" ;-((((((

    and so i responded:

    "ignore you" needs be because you are but a "christian" who has been
    "shut up".......and so it's time for you to end your delusionary postings
    and end the thread.......period.......

    for delusion is "the way" of religion's, "the way" of "christianity" ;-((((((

    "not a christian" you say, you are so deluded you don't even "know" what
    you are.......period....... you are a "christian"! you abuse and misuse the
    words in "christianities" "bible" just as they do.......period....... and you are
    a pagan indeed, the product of pagan "catholicism" and her harlot pagan
    "christian" daughters.......period.......

    however, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope there would be those who "see" that those who abuse and misuse
    the words in the testimonies are but pagan "christian" clones.......period.......

    those who truly "see" will "set their affections upon heavenly things" and
    they, as The Messiah did, will desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  9. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    - francis
     
  10. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    simply, as stated, your "shut up" was replaced by "ignore you" and now
    it's "put up or i'll just show you what i know".......

    such is the way of a "christian" ;-((((((

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    Miracles do happen! in spite of the "mirage" that is "christianity"!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  11. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    (Yet rather than adress what Christ has said in His own words, you accuse me of manipulating an twisting His own words. In reality, you simply find it easier to call me a liar, than Jesus Christ.)

    A true liar, is one who will only print the words of someone out of context, and often will not type out the full sentence in order to make it appear as if that person was saying something totally different. And yes, I checked out my original post, and I typed it out in the full context, unlike you. And anyone reading that post would easily understand, that I was not refering to myself as Jesus Christ. And the only thing you have proven, is your ability to Quote people out of context, and remove words from their sentences, in order to make your false assumptions.
     
  12. campbell34

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    Well maybe you would consider the East Gate Prophecy. It's the Gate in Jerusalem that the Bible states will remain closed until the Prince to come opens it. And that Prince does not show up until the end of time. It's kind of funny, the Moslems tried twice to break through the Gate to break the prophecy. And would you believe, as a historical record, on the very day they tried to break through it, the Moslems lost control of Jerusalem. Once in 1917 I beleive to the British, and again in 1967 to the Jews. The Gate today remains sealed, just as the Bible said it would. And you can believe that.

    http://www.harpazo.net/easterngate.html
     
  13. Daniel Herring

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    Libertine, this is rather like playing poker with an ace up your sleeve. Until you release the definition of 'real' to the general consensus, this is all just another exercise in futility.
     
  14. JesusDiedForU

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    Just another example, that shows that the Bible was trully inspired by God...

    The gate still stands and so does my faith....


    http://www.lamblion.com/articles/prophecy/general/bpg-06.php
     
  15. JesusDiedForU

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    What can't exlain why the gate is still standing just as the Bible predicted?
     
  16. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    It's symbolic of a virgin with a chastity belt. God has God's legs crossed.

    You keep on knockin' but you can't get in...
    You keep on knockin' but you can't get in...
    You keep on knockin' but you can't get in...

    lol... prom queen... you always get 'em in the end, and God knows God's gonna give it up... after all, God is in love with us :)
     
  17. JesusDiedForU

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    Anyone can talk to God; all you have to do is pray (just like you are talking to anyone else). God reveals himself to those who are trully seeking. If you have alot to discuss with him He is all ears.

    The general answer to your questions is because there is evil in the world. However, just as one man brought evil into this world so did one man bring life to it. Keep in mind, especially in this age, there will be many false prophets many to claim that they are with Christ but in reality their hearts are far from the savior. This world has been tanted and everyone has done wrong. Everyone is destined for death but through One everyone has a chance to live forever.


    Please, discredit the Eastern Gate Prophecy. I hold this prophecy so high that if anyone was to walk through the gate except Jesus I would no longer believe the Bible and thus no longer be a Christian--no strings attached.

    Here read about it:

    http://www.lamblion.com/articles/pr...eral/bpg-06.php
     
  18. JesusDiedForU

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    Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
     
  19. campbell34

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    Sorry your not buying it? Why would you buy something you don't want anyway.
    It's obvious you could care less about God, or His truth. If you did, you would look into these matters seriously. God's not going to give you a call, maybe you should consider giving Him one. God said, if you seek me with all your heart, with all your mind, and with all your soul, you will surley find me. All the proof can be discredited by facts and logic? Where are your facts? I have presented mine. Now disprove the East Gate prophecy, the Jews returning to Israel, the finding of the real Mount Sinia, and the finding of the Red Sea Crossing. Lets see your facts, and your logic.
     
  20. MollyBloom

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    Actually it seems to me that a sign of a healthy faith contains a fair amount of doubts and questioning, since we can't know everything about God and creation. Doubt is not the opposite of faith. It's a sign of intelligence and honest questioning. ..It means you don't have a "blind" faith.
     

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