"CHRISTIANS": It's Time To Put Up or Shut Up

Well, I think it is a matter of conditioning, but there are certain stimuli that can cause the brain to perceive things in such a way as could be consider "religious". After all, people "want" to believe most of the time.

 

What do you think is the link between religion and spirituality?

If a very spiritual person, recognized by others at his time, maybe performing "miracles" with it has to leave something for others? (grounding doing this proselitism, in those who will come after)

What is a ritual?

What is Moral? (in french we say "La Morale", i mean the noun)

 

Define "spirituality" and I'll tell you.

Define a "miracle"? An unexplained event? what?

Something someone does religiously...a chosen habit they believe will give them some luck or blessing or mystical power...

A moral? Is simply a prescribed formula for living. I prefer to live by ethics, situational ethics, I should say.

 

You must be a very spiritual person,
everyone has its own spirituality,
Everything that is not material is spiritual
Your thoughts by example.

The "miracle" has no importance, maybe or not I meant. Yes an unexplainable event fit good. Somebody recognized has having a great spiritual life, would she define her own situational ethics to be used for others to come?

There are many religion, even some who try to explain there is no good or bad, and that convince with argument is not necessary an useful thing.

 

My thoughts are a reflection or perception of my prior experiences and/or emotions which are subjective stimulations of the neurons in my brain--which is material.

Material is another way of saying "matter" and matter and energy are the same in differing variations as Einstein proved.

Just because it has yet to be explained doesn't make it inexplicable. Volcano gods were used to explain smoke, light and eruptions back in the primitive times, but now that seems foolish in light of the explanations that we now have.

Every prior mystery that has ever been explained, has been explained naturally and none have lent credence to the supernatural tales of their prior explanations.

Good or bad is only another way of saying "beneficial" or "harmful", "pleasurable" or "painful"...it's subjective in the way you use it.

 

You are sure of yourself, you should sometime show that you know you don't know everything, for your interlocutor to be better convinced (cuz he must also know he don't know) There are many unexplainable thing

There is no pain or pleasure, and no beneficial or harm, that's what I try to witness in my life

Yes your brain creates non material things

Do you think that a prayer can work, I mean if you wish something all the time with your brain, could it help to make it happen?

I dunno Einstein theories but as you say, everything what is is linked, everything has the same origin, maybe question of variation as you said he said

What do you think is the link between religion and spirituality?

Can you explain me how life appeared?
(I am very far from being a "creationnist" supporter (as they are called in the US))

 

I don't know "everything" and don't need to. I am only convinced by evidence and reason. Just because it is "unexplained" doesn't equal "supernatural" as I have already demonstrated.

That's an interesting take you have there. What is this opinion based on? Sure it's all subjective, but that's my viewpoint.

No. Only willpower can work, but that dictates your own actions and reactions not the actions of others or inanimate objects without physical action of some form. Wishful thinking doesn't do nothing more than give you a headache and hopes based on your desire.

Who said life "appeared"? Obviously, either A) Life can come from Non-Life or B) Everything has some degree of life in it. I go with B. It is just a matter of degree.

There was never a time when there was "nothing". Something always existed. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only changed form.

 

Which is a good amount of proof for God.Ulimate Reality.The ONE thing that has allways existed.

 

Well, in that case, Art...that would make God and Satan the same thing...Yin/Yang...we are all reality, thus everything is itself and a contradiction of itself...

Are you pantheist? Because, sorry, man that ain't Christianity...

Although, it could be your personal brand of it.

 

Sin was bound to happen i think. Allways will be a Satan some where.Pepole who will rebel against the aouthrity.But You dont need to rebel against the athourity.Yes you can question it.

GOD MADE SIN!!!!!!!!!!!

but he never wanted it to get to us.Hes loving like that.

I see it like that anyway...I could be worng:H

 

I bend the words of the bible to mean whatever I want them to, I call it interpreting. I am attracted to people of the same sex and dont feel an ounce of guilt about it. I try not to judge other people, and I respect everyone. I also completely disregard the old testament because I beleive that it is obsolete. I read the bible for myself instead of listening to what the preachers say, and I prefer to think for myself. Please respond to this Libertine and tell me, am I a 'real Christian'?

 

How can universe expand?

"I don't know "everything" and don't need to."
I will be easier convinced then

Spirituality dictates your acts, it is willpower (the word isn't in my dictionnary I interpret as willingness) that make you act, There are interactions between material and non material I think

There is no "calm" state if there is good and bad,
there must be somebody to judge it is good or bad, that is the problem, what makes you able to judge a situation?
Of course such a state could not exist,

Is sex good? is sex bad? Is eating good? is eating bad? is birth good? is death bad? is give birth good? is give death bad? (situational ethics doesn't provide clear answer, it is situational...)

Is it still subjective?

What is supernatural? If it occurs, isn't it natural?


If you had evidence prayer work, you would be convinced, that you don't have evidence, doesn't make such a statement wrong

 

I've got that.If I did not have that I may be a Buhhdaist or a Existentalist.

 

Buddhist and existentialist may also realize their own thoughts / prayer make thing happen

 

If you read my challenge, you'll see what the criteria is of what would convince me one is (at least trying to be) a "real Christians".

 

The "expansion" of the observable universe into the dark matter (the inobservable universe) is clearly an example of the metamorphosis of matter and energy. N

"I don't know "everything" and don't need to."
I will be easier convinced then

I call that reactions to a subjective situation.

Why are you making my point for me. Situation ethics is based on the circumstance of each situation and yes, it does provide answers for each subjective situations which, ironically, is what we deal with in life.

Yep.

I don't believe in the supernatural, so OF COURSE, I think everything is "natural" in that context.

How many fucking times will guys try to use that FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE --"You can't prove their ISN'T a god..." Well, you can't prove there isn't an invisible, intangible dancing fairy in your asshole either, NO ONE can prove a UNIVERSAL NEGATIVE...

The burden of proof isn't on ME, it's on the CLAIMANT.

 

Sorry, I Perform for and audience of ONE

 

Are you going to send me the $20 or not?

 

Haha.... well Dan says he wants "Proof" that I am donating but I do not have to show him any proof for Bible says we should only try to impress God.

 

Excuses, excuses...Jesus said "give to him who asks"

I am ONE and I am asking...GIVE ME $20 IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

Now, will you or not?