"CHRISTIANS": It's Time To Put Up or Shut Up

You are ignorant of the Bible. All I need to do is blister your ass over a few terms you would likely fail to know and prove your ignorance.

Don't make hasty judgments that may come back to haunt you. Did your professor tell you that?

 

Well i guess I am still waiting for you to bring your A game...

 

LOL...my "A" game...

Let me ask you something...

What IS a soul?
What IS a spirit?

Now, not YOUR VERSION, but the true definition per the manuscripts.

 

Googling are you? *lol*

 

Tell while you're googling for the answers to those simple questions...

Explain to me, in detail, exactly which "hell" is which (you know there are four different words for biblical hell, don't you)?

And what part of me, exactly, is going there? My flesh? My "soul"? My mind? All of me? I want scripture, please.

Tell me who are the Elohim? Why was the earth tohu va bohu? Do you even know what that means?

Do you really want me to "bring" it ?

 

Ok, I'm going to bed.

I'll be back in the AM...hopefully...you'll have googled all the correct answers by then.

 

There may be different names for hell, but it is clearly the same place,as far as what part of the body goes there the Bible is clear on this. John 5:28 and 29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame (and) everlasting contempt.
Jesus Christ told us that God is going to destroy both soul and body in hell. Hell then is not only a place where the souls of men will abide in the lost state undergoing the wrath of God for their sin, but their souls will be re-united to the physical body at the resurrection as they receive the full and just reward for their sins.

Who are the Elohim? This would be a hard one for the jews to answer, but for the Christian we have a sure understanding. Elohim in Hebrew is the name for God. The problem comes in when you understand that Elohim denotes more than one person. You have a similar problem when God makes the statement in Genisis. Let US make man in OUR image. If God is one why is He talking in this vain. The fact is, God exist eternally as one God, but three persons.
That is demonstrated in the book of John where it reads, there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the holy spirit, and these three are one.

The earth was tohu va bohu or totally desolated, because I believe there was a race of beings on Earth that existed before Adam. It was a race that was not part of the human race, and I believe it was made up of fallen angles. This is speculation on my part, but Satan and his angles were cast down to earth.
The part I find interesting in the scriptures is when God tells Adam to repopulate the earth. The earth could not be repopulated, unless it was first populated. And Adam being the first human would ruel out this repopulation as a second human race.
Hope this answers some of your questions.

 

Ok, I am in college, while you are middle age. There is a time gap here and according to you as you grow older you gain knowledge which is true to an to some degree. But in regards to the Bible. How can a person gain knowledge of the Bible when they never study it but instead the only knowledge they hear is from media who is against the Bible or from looking at the other skeptics thoughts of the Bible.

I think that you are using your age as a way out. If I am out of my league then go ahead and dominate me rather than just say I am out of my league. Stop talking big and trying to intimidate me with your age. Turns out, I know more about the Bible than the majority of the world. Yet the majority of the world is older than me. Funny how that works.

 

Not quite. There are four different names for hell, 1-Hebrew, 3-Greek, and no they DO NOT have the same meaning. And don't avoid the issue by quoting the KJV...

I want you to give me the names and meanings behind them. It's not too hard to find. But, it would just contradict what you just said, so I doubt I'll see it.

What IS a soul? According to the original languages...I asked this first. Obviously, it ISN'T THE BODY, then...is it? And as for as being "DESTROYED" in Hell...hmmm... maybe we need delve into that as it seems to contradict the "eternal punishment" aspect of your torturous religion.
I want scripture behind the SINNERS, not the righteous, receiving the "bodies" back to be "punished", and if so, will these be our flesh bodies which have already either deteriorated, blown to smithereens, etc. or a new physicla body?

But, I want to know the Hebrew meaning behind it.

And It would seem to me that the Jewish religion (which is centuries older than Christianity) would know what they are talking about since THEY WROTE THE DAMN BOOK.

Campbell, you are either very educated (which I respect) in the scriptures or you just googled alot. I take it that you are educated and that is what I like to deal with.

However, my questions were not fully answered. And they were not answered by the one who told me to "bring it" either.

Please answer my first two questions: What are souls and spirits? (According to the original languages.)

And secondly, give me your definition of "God" and offer some sort of evidence for the existence this entity. And then, we can begin a discussion instead of a debate.

 

WHERE O' WHERE DID YOU GO, OH CHALLENGER?

 

Me and Campbell work as a tag team.... Turns out, we both have lives and in case you did not notice, like the rest of the world this CHRISTIAN forum has very few Christians... So more people are against us....

 

Your post show your lack of knowledge of the Bible. I will be in California till the 28th and then i start school again so I will rarely be on here..... but have fun with Campbell34... He loves to tell the truth about God...

 

Boo-fucking-hoo....

 

I do have a mind of my own.... I just find Campbell respectable and someone to look up to.... his thoughts are similar to mine.

 

libertine,,,,, why did you post this? to try to get some weak followers of Christ to come to your dark side? noone is perfect and we do all indeed fall short of God's words and His will alike. the only thing that can deem you not Christian is not being saved by the blood of God's only son, Jesus Christ our Savior and Lord.

i respect your right to believe whatever you wish but i cannot sit by idley and watch you try to bring down those followers of Christ who aren't exactly the strongest....

libertine, it's time to stop playing "devil's advocate" and become a follower of Jesus or just leave this forum.

 

you try to blow down the faith i have in MY God....

on judgement day, we shall see who is ttruly right and wrong....

may God have mercy upon your soul. amen..

 

Oh, I agree. No one is "perfect", but let's not create a red herring here. The message is simple: Obey Jesus or Disobey Jesus.

You could help your argument by obeying Jesus' command, and give to the one who asks of you, namely me, the mere $20.

 

your version of simplicity but implicates you once again as a "christian".
talk about hypocrites!!!!!!! libertine what color is your herring?

once again,

say, i have that $20.00 but i can not give you something requested using
a pagan "god's" name. and you would have to come and get it, The Messiah
made no mention of having to deliver.......if you have "need" i am sure you'll
come get the $20.......

sad how "braindirtyed" souls want to hang onto the dirt ;-((((((

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that here would be those who would seek to be made clean, to be
renewed, to be delivered from this world, it's "god" "the father of lies", it's
religious systems and from themselves, the destructive "I" that is soon to die,
and no matter how hard they try, that temporal "I" one day will die.......

'course i too would strive to stay, if i were fearful of the eternal day ;-((((((

peace, even as war(spritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Ok, I believe in freedom of speech. I also believe in the freedom to ignore.

Franco, you make zero sense. You are ignored from here on out. Sorry.

 

ignored because you are but a "christian" who has been "shut up".......
and so it's time for you to end this delusionary thread.......period.......
for delusion is "the way" of the religious ones ;-((((((

however, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope there would be those who "see" that to abuse and misuse the words
of the testimonies is to be but a pagan "christian" clone.......period.......

those who truly "see" will "set their affections upon heavenly things" and
they, as The Messiah did, will desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

peace, even as wars(spiritual and carnal) rage....... francis