Christians. Why do you respect a God that kills humans and does not denounce slavery?

Please try to think it out before you type because what you say makes almost no sense without trying to guess what you might be saying.

You say: Notions in the Bible do not come from the Bible.
Obviously notions in the Bible come from the Bible, but what I was saying is that stupid notions do not come from the Bible they come from people that say they represent the Bible.

Then you say: Let's pick two. Talking snakes and parting water as in Moses.
Obviously these come from the Bible but you fail to say why you think these are obvious examples of stupid notions. Taken out of context they might to you seem like stupid notions but a simple reading of these things in the Bible in context show how and why these happened and why they are not as you say stupid notions at all.

Then you say: Where do these come from if not the Bible? How will a simple reading of the Bible show that they do not come from there?
Obviously they come from the Bible and a simple reading of the Bible will not show that they don’t come from there. A simple reading will show that they are in the Bible but not stupid notions.

Please, once again think these things through first, because having to do your thinking for you before I can answer is getting a little tiresome.

 

Chuck Norris doesn't kill people that's just acting..........unless you know something I don't!

 

Let's pick one then.
How is talking snakes not a stupid notion?
I say it is a stupid notion because there are no talking snakes.

Regards
DL

 

Probably too quickly.
I'm sure it will happen again. Chill.

Regards
DL

 

It may seem that the Bible depicts a mere snake as working out this scheme by dint of its own unusual cleverness. Such an interpretation would reduce the account to the status of myth—and a rather silly myth at that.

But taking the whole Bible into account we see that the Bible teaches that there was much more than some talking snake at work there in Eden. Revelation 12:9 clearly identifies Satan the Devil with that “original serpent.” Satan was the unseen, power manipulating that simple reptile the way a ventriloquist works his dummy.

 

Why would God pit a young and innocent Eve against a master trickster and supernatural Satan? Would any one expect Eve to win this battle of whit'.

Job shows God in complete control of Satan. Why bring him to the garden unless He wants Eve to have knowledge? Without knowledge, where would any of us be?

Revelation calls the snake Satan. It does not say anything about him just using it. If he did then I am certain God would not have punished this poor creature.

The more I look at it the more your position falls apart.

Regards
DL

 

Please, show me one place that the Bible says that God pitted Eve against Satan.

Yes, Eve was not stupid as you infer, but perfect with far superior thinking ability than ours, so Yes, I believe she had a change to win.

Job does not show God in complete control of Satan, in fact the book of Job shows a confrontation between God and Satan.

God did not bring Satan to the garden.

Eve already had knowledge or she wouldn’t have been able to speak. She also had knowledge of what was good and bad, God had taught them that. So in what special sense did Adam and Eve have knowledge of good and bad after they sinned? In the sense that they now were deciding for themselves what was good and bad rather than accepting God’s standard for good and bad. We can see after some 6000 years what the result of that is and still most people are making it up as they go.

Revelation calls Satan the original serpent, now if you start reading at genesis 1:1 it won’t take very long to get to the first snake or serpent mentioned in the Bible and that is the one talking to Eve thus the original serpent.

As for the poor creature do you really think God was talking to the snake? Do you really think that the Bible says that the snake was walking around and now bingo no legs because it was used as a puppet by Satan. No God was talking to Satan as was represented by the snake, and what God said at that time was the first prophecy recorded in the Bible.

And your statement: The more I look at it the more your position falls apart.
As for this I suggest that instead of just looking, try thinking as well.

 

with conversation like this

who needs drugs?

 

Obviously you do!

 

not any more...

 

I have to say that although i am not a biblical literalist, many of the "dumb notions" in the bible actually contain bits of wisdom in them. I think that most of the miracle stories are not meant to be taken literally, you have to look deeper than that. Just my opinion though.

 

ok wtf.

stop assuming and stop generalizing my statements. and when you put things in all caps, it doesn't make the content of your post any more rational.
Im not defending churches and im not attacking them. I have no stance. What I said was just an observation that includes EVERYONE.
EVERYONE defines God according to their own terms. If a church is successful, it just means that whoever started that church defined God in a way that appeals to a lot of people. but that still doesn't make it the truth.

Your going to have to learn to stop assuming things and getting offended. I've never said that the churches are right or that the churches are wrong.

I do not require caps. I've read all your post, and the only thing ridiculous in the thread is your attitude.

 

how do you know that there are no talking snakes?

 

oh okay well then I guess you are making yourself God as well as everyone else.

 

plus if you didnt know this already, you can't possibly know someones "attitude" over the internet.

 

i can't discern your true attitude, but i can only go off of what you have shown me. diction, emphasis, tone are fine ways to discern how someone is trying/not trying to present themselves.

Yes bradley, I am not outside of my own statements.

 

I just dont see how someone could actually believe that they were making themselves God, and continue to go along with it...