Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond

It's been coming for a long, long, long time now. We all should have been preparing for this yrs ago. We do have some solar batteries to run lights and such, but for mega power we need more. When it hits, IDK how long it will last or what methods will be used against us. Chaos is not to my liking it makes me nervous and my fingers get twitchie when I'm nervous.

We should geta shortwave radio bc I dont imagine there will be internet service of lay ppl. We will need to stay in touch.

It gets curiouser and curiouser

lovins
cakes

 

It wouldn't be such a bad idea mayde if we could start up a family seed exchange focused on heirloom and Native fruits and veggies.
Also I've been telling friends in California for years now that they should invest in reloading equipment while they could and learn how to use it properly.
Another thing is that I recall articles in Mother Earth News years ago about low head generators for small streams.

 

Ranger,....GREAT advice re reloading stuff also I have one of those low flow water generators..puts out 12 volt continous! Yep we need to be seeding up !! Shortwave is also good just mask the antenna!! I am also worried about POLITICALLY Controlled Chaos. Sorry folks but BOTH partys have let us down and a lot of our own generation has made it to Government only to become Government Power lovers. I know this much....I can ONLY control my issues but I can also be an example to my kids and hopefully I will teach my Children well!

peace and love yo all
ww

 

Also RANGER how the heck are you doing!!!!!!!?? Any progress on the Medical?
TC
peace and love
wickwah

 

Hi Folks,
I recived a call from Ranger last night. He and Rita are fairing well. They had some trouble with their starter on the van and could not make it to Ranger's doc apointment. He did however findout that they will send a ride to pick him up and take him back, so, he will not need to have a vehichle to get there and back. Ranger's reschedueled appt is this coming Monday the 14th. The Ball will hopefully start rolling then and everything will fall into place.

lovins
cakes

 

My Daddy use to reload his own ammo when he was alive. I use to watch him and I could prolly remember how he did it with a little refresher course. My Father was a survivalist. I still have some of his old books from the 50/60s on survival. It's a complete instructional on everything you need to know/build/create in the wilderness. I have another that I do use frequently called Stocking Up, which is complete instruction for growing, canning, preserving what you grow/raise. It covers butchering and all kinds of blueprints for constructing contraptions to cure/smoke/brine/dehydrate meat, veggies and fruit.

We of us here that spent time in Ash Valley have lived like this before. We did all of the natural ways of living off the land. It worked, we all survived for yrs. like that and some still do.

We have the knowledge to get though this, if, that is, the earth is not destroyed in the process. We shall see what we shall see. Heads up ppls.

lovins
cakes

 

Hey Y'all,
Do you remember back in the '70s (yea sure!) a series of books called "The Fox Fire Book"? Some folks went and interviewed the old folks in the Apalacian Mts for all the survival techniques that were just every day life for them. I remember that those books were a store house of "how to"; everything from skining a deer to making moonshine; a step by step that even us hippies could follow. We had most of them at Ash Valley. Lord knows where they got to. I think I'll Google 'em and see if they're available.
Amazing that we're thinking this way again, but maybe not amazing; just pragmatic!

Peace & Love,
Mouseman

 

So, I just went to Amazon Books and "the Foxfire Book(s)" are available; new & used. Wow, what a flash back! I'm ordering #1 right away; gotta know how to make good white lightnin'; oh yea!

Love & Good Vibes
Mouseman

 

Hi Mouseman. I am going to follow your lead and also get them again!!! I wish that we had not sold the place on upper Cow Creek!! We had 7 springs there. That old homested had a great location High enough to be in Good Sun, SE Exposure, access up to top and bottom of property! If we only could have held onto that place. Oh well...........Foxfire Series!! Great Call BTW we should all have this set!

tc
peace and love
wickwah

 

Mouseman, Tillerwah, I just checked Ebay and the whole set is there at anywhere from .99 to $170.00 or so depending on if you want one or the whole set at right now. There are whole sets up for bid at a lot less also'

 

Another thing, I have a collection of 'Formula' books which were popular in the late 19th century including one published by "Scientific American" which covers most everything you canimagine. Another good source is
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=299899011"]Amazon.com: Bibliofind.com> Bibliofind
and also Abebooks is good <http://www.abebooks.com/>

 

The sky is falling! It hit me on the head!

 

Excuse the intrusion,but Euell Gibbons had some good survival books.

 

Ranger glad to hear`you're settled and I look foward to hearing that your medical problems are under control. relax the procedure is prety routine, I've had a variation on it benfreep mgy open heart surgery.
Folks the war is on. At home the powers that be are out to destroy the working man and his unions and to eliminate the middle class: the 2 classes that tradionally have motivated, directed and led the social revolutions of the past. (Marx & Engels were totally worng- it was never the lumpen proletariat - they were just the muscle for both sides). We`must fight back the only way we can. By denying them our resources as much as possible.
Overseas, and quickly coming home, the jihadists are determined to end our ways of life and that of our allies. The less gas we buy and the less energy we use the less money we give them LET THEM EAT SAND AND BANANAS!! Big busines in this country will let both Asia and the middle east conquer us aso long as they make a quick buck. Their shortsightedness ignores the fact that`both of these forces want to destroy them as well. Tomorrow is a country wide gasoline boycott. Don't buy gas tomorrow. Stop buying goods made overseas especially in Asia. Re-use, recycle and do without. Most of us have been brainwashed by TV and other media to the point we don't know the difference between our needs and our wants. When you figure out that they are not the same you find that you need a lot less.
Cakes: Thanks fort he news clip. The karma of helping your brother has been good to me as well. I've been busier than ever. Only the fact that I don't have a music gig now is a downer but I'm sure that will change soon. I'm going to try to get out (with Sag Darel) to SF and the Oregon Country Fair this summer. I hope to see a bunch of you people in either or both places.

 

I once had was "Vitology" writen not too long after the War of Northern Aggression which has an detaileaged picture section on 'field amputation' along with a good bit of herbology and more.
Zev, the original meaning of 'middle class' was the small businessman, as in 'serf/middle class/peerage. They have adapted the meaning of the word so as to make the mid to upper levels of the corperate slaves feel better about thheir status. The true middle class has been teetering on the brink of extinction for decades now.
Kenny & Zev, be sure to take in a showing of 'Escape from New York'. It may be an educational film for all you city boys. LOL

 

Rasnger The middle class also included all those workers who did not work the land along with the inteliigentsia. This especially included the townspeople. Craftspeople artists as well as`small business people. wage slaves and civil servants are also included. The middle calss reached its peak in the 1950's and ever since then the powers that be have tried to destroy it. Starting with Reagan destroying the Air Controllers union. Our sell out congress has done nothing but tax the middle class to make the rich richer and the poor dependent on charity. In this country, except for the very poor and the very rich everybody considers themselves middle class "lower", "middle" or "upper" middle class. It is what made it and makes it so hard to organize a social/political revolution.

 

As to todays version as defined by the peerage. My version I learned in England in the '80s and indeed the middle class included most of those not of the peerage and not beholden to a Liege Lord. Ergo townsfolk, artists, etc.
Personally I still suspect a 'wage slave' is still a slave.

 

I can't argue with you. But mostly a slave to their own desires and ambitions

 

For a great many, however many just don't see any choice. They are well trained to think that way by the American system of 'higher lrarning' which is mainly funded by the mega corps.
For example, how many others volunteered for the service after leaving highschool in the '60s because it was the next most logical thing to do according to our indoctrination....

 

I think the Seed Exchange is a brilliant idea. I love the low head generator too, but we do not have a stream on our place that runs all yr. We have a Well but it needs to be redug to produce enuff water. It pumps for about 4 hrs a day.. that could get us by but we would still need power to run the electric pump. We have a generator but it run on gas.. we could however maybe convert it over to ethenol.. ( whitelightening)

Everyone seems to have this or that but not many of us are completely off the grid. If we pooled our resources in one place where we could all be, we would have a better chance of survival. The deep woods of course would be ideal but who has land in the deeps woods that would support us all.

As I see it there is about 20 families that it would have to house. Then what about extended families. I have a very large family. I dont know how many would end up at our place. I see at least 25 ppl or more showing up here just in close relatives.

If push came to shove we could sleep 20 or so in the house, maybe 12 or so in the barn, 4 can sleep in the camper and we have a full bus that could sleep 8 or so. Then we have a two br trailer that can sleep 6 or 8. There is also a tin building we house our old riding lawn mowers in that could sleep 15 or so.

I'm trying to get hubbalisous to build me a Dutch Oven w/ a bbq grill on one side and a rotisery on the other side. I wouldnt need fossil fuel to cook. I would like to build a little Smokehouse too to smoke meat in.

There are alot of things we should be doing to get ready for whatever is thrown at us. We are not ready yet. We could make do, I suppose, we have a lot of scrap laying in the pasture that we can use to build a lot of the things we might need. Like I said I have books on how to build everything we need to survive. We have about 5 acers that are plantable, well really we could plant everywhere. The sideyard, the back yard and the front yard are all big enuff to grow veggies.

I dont see a problem with growing, maybe finding heirloom seeds might become difficult. Better stock up Today.. on my list now

I do Love the Fox Fire Books. I had a set but they were lost in a fire in my Mamma's in 84'. I do have tons of other books on healing a herbals and the training on how to use them.

I need to study up on the local herbage , plants that grow indigenes in our area, ya know like edible vegetation, mushroomierooms ect.

More thinking, more deliberation, more focus.

lovins
cakes