Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond

Tried that once and it got the papers so greasey..../
Seems to me that one could expand ones growing area by spreading seeds of useful native plants on surounding roadsides and low use pastures and woodlots of neighboring land. (That might involve a little moonlight poaching later. lol)
As to the well, a solar panal could power the pump with an old fashioned hand pump or mule powered pump would cover you if somehow you mysteriously ran out of white lightening unexpectedly.....

 

I love the fire in these posts. We all knew this would happen its just a matter of when.
Waiting for the monsters to awaken.......they are waking now.
The government is like a giant crackhead booting all the loot it can find .
People buy into it because they thing more government will lead to a more perfect world.
Like more crack will straighten me up..same shit
Get ready Brothers and Sisters and dont forget love
And Kenny give me a holler I miss you we just got started

 

A piece of sky fell and hit Kenny in the head.. ohh bother.. what next?? I wonder if he could sell the piece of sky that fell and hit him on the head. Perhaps we should examine the piece of sky that fell and hit Kenny on the head, we may be able to harness it's resources.

Hey Kenny.. what did you do with that piece of sky that fell and hit you on the head.. bring it to the table and let's get a look at it.

 

maybe a pipe would work better then papers Ranger for the smoking of the meat.

 

Rita was just looking at a cook book I found at the Friends of thr Library sale recently. She pointed out that it has formuli and processes for tanning deer and snake hides as well as recipes for Granpa's and Grannie's wine as well as two pages of common poisonus plants and much more. The book is "Fredericsburg (Texas) Community Cook Book" put out in '82 by the Ladies Auxillary of VFW Post 7105
There are lots of these little local hill country community cook books from all over the country loaded with odd info and formuli you wouldn't normally think of in terms of cook books.....


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The people are rising up across the nation. It's about time!

 

The most important item in any Revolution is a still !
Everything else grows wild

 

Is that folks on both the riht and the left are fed up and ready to rise up against those they both precieve as enemies of the constitution and the people. They are rising up for different reasons but beginning to see a common enemy.

 

The country is starting to look like a giant plantation.
The jails are full and the states cant afford it
The economy is fucking toast , if the feds didn't print trillions the reality of the economy would be a lot more apparent.
The military runs the country to fight wars for nothing that nobody can afford.
The working class is being turned into debt servitude.
Its pretty apparent the lifestyle we have been living, is going to disappear.
Everybody needs to eat and have a house and be safe thats a fact.
The thing to do is predict the threat.
Whatever happens it will be ugly and people with friends and family will be safe and happy.
The city's may look like a burning Hell
Keep the faith

 

“A piece of sky fell and hit Kenny in the head.. ohh bother.. what next?? I wonder if he could sell the piece of sky that fell and hit him on the head. Perhaps we should examine the piece of sky that fell and hit Kenny on the head, we may be able to harness it's resources.

Hey Kenny.. what did you do with that piece of sky that fell and hit you on the head.. bring it to the table and let's get a look at it.

”


You don’t get Cable Channels do you? There’s a show called “Meteor Men” where these two guys go from British Columbia to Sweden to Tucson and find meteors and sell each one for thousands. The sky falling is not a bad business at all to be in. Well worth the price of a good metal detector. LOL
K


“She pointed out that it has formuli and processes for tanning deer and snake hides as well as…”
Ranger

Or I’ll give you Sag Darrel’s phone number, cause that’s what he does. Now that you have a cell phone, you can talk hides with the master. Just ask for the number. Or PM him.
K

“The most important item in any Revolution is a still !
Everything else grows wild”
drwhitc
and Nailcakes said that too.

Alcohol is in the main, a primo trade item, first and for most. Drinking and med uses.
K



The people, Revolution, and rising up.

Never happen. You’d need to see at lease 50 percent of the people starving to death first. Even then, I would doubt it. Our generations are way too complacent and way too preprogrammed.

All that they would have to do is to get the left and the right to kill each other. Then they would fly back from their vacation in Tahiti and tell everyone, “See, we told you so. Now will you listen to us? We’re your leaders.”
K


The country is starting to look like a giant plantation.
The jails are full and the states cant afford it
The economy is fucking toast , if the feds didn't print trillions the reality of the economy would be a lot more apparent.
The military runs the country to fight wars for nothing that nobody can afford.
The working class is being turned into debt servitude.
Its pretty apparent the lifestyle we have been living, is going to disappear.
Everybody needs to eat and have a house and be safe thats a fact.
The thing to do is predict the threat.
Whatever happens it will be ugly and people with friends and family will be safe and happy.
The city's may look like a burning Hell
Keep the faith
drwhitc


I agree, but I would suggest being ahead of the curve. More then just predicting the threat. Make a science of it.
K

“The working class is being turned into debt servitude.”
drwhitc

Indentured servitude is illegal by federal law but nobody seems to apply that law in our nation any longer. What Constitution? When we separated from England we did away with debtor’s prisons. So, what are they going to do? Lock you up? Shoot you? Unless they can prove intentional fraud, No.
Other info:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/05/03/09_bankruptcy.html

K

“The military runs the country to fight wars for nothing that nobody can afford.”
drwhitc


Hey, Everybody “Likes Ike” right? …and even Eisenhower stated that we should all be wary of the (then) new Military Industrial Complex. We’re talking back in the mid-fifties. And he had been the top general in the world. Nothing was done about it, then, as now. Vietnam made lots of corporate money for fifteen solid years. Huge national debt. Go Right Wing Hawks! Rah Rah. LOL

Anyhow the ancient Romans had the right idea. War for Profit. Only.
K



“The country is starting to look like a giant plantation.
The economy is fucking toast, if the feds didn't print trillions the reality of the economy would be a lot more apparent.
…that nobody can afford.
The working class is being turned into debt servitude.
Its pretty apparent the lifestyle we have been living, is going to disappear.
Everybody needs to eat and have a house and be safe thats a fact.
The thing to do is predict the threat.
Whatever happens it will be ugly and people with friends and family will be safe and happy.
The city's may look like a burning Hell”
drwhitc


You know what? It’s a dam good thing that WE Are The People Who Invented the Term “Alternative Lifestyle” isn’t it. I believe that between us, we could write a BOOK on the Topic. Want to get Rich writing a BOOK? Everybody? Together?
K

Seriously! A New York Times Best Seller List top 10. Our book.

Me personally, I don’t wish to be the loner survivalist with all of the guns in the world. Give me people to hang out with every time. Humans are social animals. Humans have always been tribal creatures for the last million years. Just because we’ve lived in single houses for the last 300 or 400 years, that doesn’t mean that it’s the way to go. I chose to survive with a tribe. I could easily do a loner thing, but I would be bored shitless. Give me a circle of reliable people to hang out with any day of the week.

Ranger. Do you recall back after San Pablo we lived with the couple in the South Mission area of San Francisco, back when Frera was alive? Him (what was his name? Alvin? Or something. IDK) and Cowboy Steve and You were all talking about post apocalyptic shit in the city. Theoretical B.S. Getting food for your group, clan, or family. You guys were all talking about firepower and got off into one-ups-men-ship with explosives. I came into the living room and listened to the stupidity. It was all about tons of people raiding the supermarkets and how each of you could beat them all and get all of the canned food. You all then asked me what I would do if I had to survive and get the food for my people and wipe out the others before they would all wipe out me.

I had listened to all of you guys stories first and none had those guarantees as solutions. I gave it some thought and I then went MacGuiver on all of you. I said do you remember anything for high school chemistry? Three Nopes.

I said that I’d start by finding a Yellow Pages. I know that there was a Diving Shop on South Mission Street that we always drove past. I’d look up the address of that dive shop and go there. Walk or drive if possible. It would be closed because the city was in riot. I’d break in and put on a full wet suit with hood, booties (no fins), and glove and mask (the type that covers the mouth) air tanks, belt with no weights with a dive knife and sheath, and also a spear gun just for fun. (For Shock Effect) extra weird.

I would breath from the tanks as I walked across the parking lot and onto the supermarket. If everyone was busy shooting at each other in an active shoot out they would most probably shoot at the gun folks and not bother with the weirdo. I figured that my free pass would be the out of place attire and once in the store I would head straight for the detergent aisle. The fight would be in all of the food aisles. [Supermarket, enclosed space, probably no electric, no air, no lights.]
Chemistry 1A.
I’d take the dive knife and slice up all of the bottoms of all of the plastic bleach bottles and the chlorine cleanser containers. Throw ‘em on the floor. Next, cut up the bottoms of all of the Ammonia bottles and throw those all on the floor. Then just Wait quietly in the dark.
Chemistry 1A. You have just mixed Ammonium Chloride, a deadly air bore gas poison that would clear out the supermarket if not kill. In the enclosed space, any who enter later would have trouble fast. The place would be all mine, and I didn’t get killed, like others. Food and provisions for my family.

You guys responded with comments like, “Eeuh, That’s sick.” I said it worked far better than any of you guys answers. You all agreed and changed the subject.

The moral to this story is brains over brawn. Every time.


If it all came to an end tomorrow, I’d be the first to get the job of being the witchdoctor. I wouldn’t need to be the hunter or the soldier. I would teach others how. I read the night sky the time and the seasons.
K


In these posts, Ranger mistakenly refers to me as a city boy. Though he is 5-years-older then I am, I have spent many more years of my life in forests of east coast Iroquoi birch and creeks, and west coast Redwoods from Santa Cruse to Garberville. Playing Jungleboy in Florida swamps. And at least 25 years in deserts. Both California and Arizona. I know the lands. All types.

Fred Wegweiser, an avid Sierras Camping Freak once dubbed me “The Ultimate Camper.” Able to build WAY Styling Camp Space out of just about anything. This after the Solar Eclipse trip to just north of the Bonneville Dam. Southern Washington. December in the mountains. The 3 of us, Fred, Michael Mouse, (Not Mouseman) and I, drove up there with full equipment in a pickup truck. Unknown to us, Bill Huck shows up in his pickup with wooden camper shell with ten people with three sleeping bags and one blanket. Half had coats. Most in tennis shoes. One in a t-shirt and flip flops. We’re a quarter mile off of the two lane highway camped on a ridge saddle in thin looking winter pines, in the wind, on two foot of snow and no windbreak.

The only choice items that I brought were a 20 by 50 clear visqueen plastic tarp and a hundred feet of rope. We bought 2 big bunches of firewood at a gas station to burn as well.

Suddenly we have 12 people to attend to and night has fallen. The wind has come up. Blowing from the north valley over the high saddle, with us sitting on the top of the crest, to the south valley. The only windbreak is each of the 12 humans. In the truck headlights I find small dead fall for tent stakes and survey the proximity of the trees for tie locations for rigging rope to build a tent with some serious structure to it. Urban boy Michael Mouse wants to do the honors of building our campfire. I handed him my lighter. What do I care? I have a nice thick down coat on.

I build a tent which is set against the wind direction, of course. With 12 or 14 feet by 20 wide of floor on the snow. Then curved up to wall against the wind and then back over the floor as a tent top. Knifed a big hole in the middle of the floor for a big fire on the snow. Structurally rigged the rope from many angles so that even if the wind changed direction to any angle it wasn’t going anywhere.

Well Michael Mouse tried and tried till he wore himself out. Nobody said a word about it. Fred took over. I kind of thought that that would happen because he was the avid camper guy. After 4 minutes, he said, “Kenny, can you get it faster.” Everybody was dieing for some hot coffee or coco. I said, "Sure," and after restacking the wood and kindling, and then lighting a lighter and blowing some, there was a fire going on within a minute. There were some happy hearts sitting around warm light in the night.

Through the night the wind blew harder and harder. By 4 or 5 the wind was wiping from around 55 to 65 miles per hours. The noise was horrendous and the roof would whip down to a foot above our noses but the tarp went nowhere. The fire was fed all night long. The grey dawn light was a still breeze and the hot breakfast and coffee was great. By 10 there was a total eclipse and everyone was glad for the unique experience.


From age 7 through 10 I was making functional bows, slings and slingshots. Long after you run out of gun powered for your reloading equipment I’ll be making ways for people to get there own quail and cottontails for lunch. With a Dutch oven and carrots, garlic, and onions herbs and a few other things, French roast rabbit. Recipe.
Rôti de Lapin aux Herbes (Roast Rabbit with Herbs)
http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/miscellaneous/fetch-recipe.php?rid=misc-roti-de-lapin-aux-herbes
I always believe in roughing it in style. And Why Not? It ain’t all that tough to do.

Yeah, if everything screeches to a halt, tomorrow. I’ll still be enjoying life. Why? Because that’s the way I am.

My only regret is that you can’t hunt Angus Steers, and I’ll miss the computers. Maybe we could have all of the state’s fish and game departments stock the countryside with white face herefords and black angus before the world comes to an end. I’d pay extra for a hunting permit. Wouldn’t you? After it all ends we could have fillet mignon. How cool would that be?
K

My dream plan. You know, that top secret thing that we don’t publicly talk about on this forum. That was all about generating electric and buying power cables and equipment, all buy selling tickets to folks. As, Chris says, “Off the Grid.” Someday, incomes for us. And later on, land, and in a couple of places. Chose your favorite climate. Or Migrate seasonally. Not just one place.
Wells, water, pumps, infrastructure, recycling, waist treatment, methane production, Solar cells, battery banks, communications of our own. All necessary long term components of the operation.

Together. Tribe. Real Biz. Or we could sit all alone by ourselves.

Whatever happens. I’ll be swimming in the sunshine. Probably the backstroke. You can bet on that.

Want to swim with me?

Love, Kenny :sunny:

 

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/michael-moore-maddow-wisconsin_n_833922.html

I tried to post just the video but it insisted I paste the whole page.. OK then.. the video is down a little so scroll down a bit.. We are in the Dawning of a Civil War.

 

:2thumbsup: Good to see ya up and about Ranger. And yep your correct,,, I thought this would happen before now myself. I have been saying since I was a kid, if we all didnt go to work one day, it would send a powerful message to the Rite Pig's that they need the workin class and shouldnt take it for granted. That the people are not just drones!

When in the woods and the scary black gloved "forestry" who cost this country a million a yr. to "practice" on us in the woods, practice breaking constitutional right's. It is our duty to stand up according to the constitution when our govt. get's to big, is not for the people.

Turning guns on us in the woods, the constitution say's the military are not supposed to turn their weapon's on our own people.

Now I know I aint tellin ya'll here nothin. Your backs were up against the wall a long time ago, and as always,, I thank you. Wizev and many other's for gettin their radical up!

It's about time is all I can say.

Thanks for lettin me speak here.

Thank you all for what you have done, what you are doing, and may love & peace win in the end.

Love & Light!

 

Hi all again!! WOW My Brother is in Japan as my old Company (CWP which is now part of "Chaos Productions" wow Chaos what a name I guess John W knew what was it was all comming to when he built CHAOS!!). My Brother his wife and Son had just left the Tokoyo Bay Hilton (at the Disneyland location where the job was) they are OK. He was able to Skype me and he said that it is time to get to Halawa as the world is ending!!!!!! Not really a laughing matter.

Kenny I have Halawa all set up. It is a survival haven BUT getting there is the rub! We are totally prepared THERE but I have a way to go to be togather here in Encinitas CA. Caleb (my 2nd son) is over there in Halawa with his wife. He told me last night that the Tsunami did hit the front of the valley actually kinda big one!! My house is above the point where the HIGHEST Tsunami to everhit Hawaii,,The one that took out a lot of Hilo and did distroy the FRONT of Halawa. And I am ABOVE the river incase of a HUGE FLOOD!! All is well and the rest of the place is fine Plenty of GOOD H2o and plenty of food growing and also food is available in the form of wild pig/Deer/Goats/Turkey/pheasent/Doves. AND off grid power!! Also a still!! And it aint for drinking....YET!

I am very afraid about what I think Spud/Danny is talking about IF there truly is an uprising it will be ugly here as MOST and I mean MOST of the folks in OUR COUNTRY are spoiled with out any true understanding about survival reality. AND that will mean that if you are in Cites and high population areas how will you be able to handel HUGE crowds of people who have no water, or other things. We are spread out now (our Flos/familys I mean) and can any of us truly take care of a large group?

Everyone must get at least a five day water supply for themselves. AND lets figure how to get an ARK that we can board and get over to Halawa where over 600 people lived for many years with populations being as high as 1000 over the centurys. Now there are about 15-20people living there!!! SO few of us now reside in Halawa that in fact the Government actually did TRY to Incororate Halawa into the National Park System along with Kalapapa!! Well we won that battle and no land was ever taken or transfered to the Government. Halawa has over 12,000 acres.... and well....l think that is enough info if we need to be there we will need to get there!.

After talking to my Brother in Japan it really hits you how real Disasterous things can be. I also think that Most places will not respond as calmly as the Japanese People. They have not gone nuts and have acted amazingly! NO LOOTING or any of the crap that can come in times of loss. These folks are holding it togather amazingly well. But then there is always the Middle East/North Africa!

GET PREPARED.! ADD Iodine pills to your kit too!! WOW

Need to stress Peace and Love ALL!!!
wickwah

 

Kenny:
"I dont to be loner"
Anybody who survives will be with trusted friends and family all the loners will be like stray dogs. Its the wolf pack that will survive.
And as to if and when
The Us borrows 5 trillion year between the feds the trade and consumers.
I ant the smartest guy in the world but I cant see that working long term
What is their plan B?
Nothing
Keep the faith
Love
dan
Mr Machine....

 

Is that an invitation?
Took me forever to figure out that you weren't talking about the town just north of Honolulu. That doesn't look like a great place to be, to me. I finally found the very same name on the north point of the big island. You must be talking there. I would guess.

"Everyone must get at least a five day water supply for themselves."

I live a half mile from a major canal coming straight from a mountain dam. Will that work? They stock it with crap for cleaning the plant life out. Fishing? The Resort stocks the biggest golf course pond with trout, for client fishing. 1/3 mile away. Squab, quail, and cotton tail 3 dozen paces outside of my apartment. Bait, a cardboard box, a stick, and some string to pull the stick. Food. What gun? The walk to the public barbarque grill is twice as far as that. When I run out of Kingsford Charcoal I live amongst a gold mine of mesquite trees. Just got to cut and dry it out. Did I mention that I live in a very very dry place? Never tried digging a pit to bait a havalina before. Should be a kick. I guess you kill 'em with a spear. Right? Some people do plant banana leaves around here that I could use for wrapping pig for cooking in, but I'd need to do some looking around. Or Find a nursery. You know. Wrapped pig cooked Hawiien Style. Can I use the same trap pit for a pig cooking pit? Past the salt please.

"I also think that Most places will not respond as calmly as the Japanese People."

I don't know about that one. I was in the 6.9 Loma Prieta quake in downtown San Francisco watching the 5:10 rush hour. No electric and no stop lights. Everyone was doing full stops and all waving the other guy to go first.
In a disaster, people either freak out and run, and then curl up into a ball, or some get a calm center and think of helping others and digging out the buried and patching up the injured.

If the world comes to an end tomorrow, I'll be the guy that you see helping the little old ladies to cross the street. Then some redneck will shoot the longhair and then the mob will burn him alive for killing the only guy that knows how to feed them all. The poor dude.

Well that was fun to write. Well, you all need to plant more garlic and oregano and jalapenos. Folks made a fortune in the Spice Trade. Stuff like Cinnamon and vanilla that doesn't grow in this country. That will be rare trade goods. I even know where a salt mine is if the world needs to salt meat, with no refrigeration. Is Ranger a trader? Spice trade? Salt trade?

Love You, Chris,
Kenny :sunny:

 

Yep. I just figure that a bunch of folks sitting around the campfire and talking with each other will become the new replacement for television. This is, once television is long gone. There's nothing on TV right now. Maybe we should start the campfire thing in advance, and be way ahead of the curve. What do you think of starting a brand new fad? It's been tried and proven for a half million years. So, how can we miss?

Nope, I'm not a loner. I like to see smiles too much.

Loved the video! Funny.

Kenny :sunny:

 

The best strategy for being way ahead after the shit hits the fan.

In a nation full of hamburger addicts, wouldn't it pay to become a cattle baron?

Pass the catsup.

 

Indians were the original hippies
be true to yourself
love and piece
with the strength of a warrior

 

The guns are not necessarly for hunting meat. They are also for protection. I am not worried about all of us surviving, we've done it before in the Haight. WE lived live survivors, we improvised, we made do. We traded and bartered to fulfill our needs.

We have the experience to get through whatever is thrown our way. We have the courage to do what needs to be done in the face a danger. We have the ability to adapt to new enviroments. It is said: Woe to the small children and the aged. They will be the first to parish.

If/when the shit does flow and cover the USA, travel would be near impossible bc of supplies, like gas, food and water. Most will not want or be able to leave to go to a fortress half way across the country or even the ocean.

They will have to make a stand to protect their homes. Me n hubalicious will make our stand here. We would not be willing to abandon what we spent half our lives building. When the battle stops and the smoke clears, we will then decide if we can survive here in the aftermath.

I suppose that surviving would depend on how many were backing you up and eating and drinking, who was 'working' and who was slacking.

We the people will need teachers and healers. We will need no banks or credit unions, we will need no outsider orcastrating our lives. We shall have our elders. Which we are the elders I suppose. It will be up to us to teach the ones that do not know.

We have many teachers but only a few healers. I see three healers, Cathy (spud's wife) Lovione ( Kimmie) and myself. If there are more here speak up.

I think it would behoove us to have ppl who have a trade that they are masters at. Cultivate the talents of each person and have an expert in various fields to teach others.

I think with all our wisdom we can survive but what has got me a bit concerned now is Nucular Fall Out. Japan's nucular reactors ( 2 ) are melting down and Hawaii will be in the path of the radioactive cloud. Chris I worry about you there bc of that very thing.

Our Mother is angry, Father Universe is screaming at Mother Earth to control her children, we are an unruley lot. It's not the rising of the ppl that I fear. It's the World crashing that sends shudders through my body and mind. If the Earth Blows then there is no preperation that will save any of us. Only LOVE can change the Karma of the Earth and it's ppl.

lovins
cakes