Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond

Discussion in 'Church of the Good Earth' started by shameless_heifer, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Cant we use the word Trade instead of Sales or we might get away with something like this.

    The guys from biplane came by and this guy/gal with them Gave us some so n so. Or, we went to gypsy and traded a pound of marijuna or oz of coke
     
  2. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    The proof is in the puddin' and we ate all the puddin' so where's the proof.

    Unless they had you and u was bailed out or on OR and then left, it would be flight to avoid prossicution, if ya stayed and never got caught and a yr later moved, IDK seems a little sticky.

    We could always say we were lying ;) if it ever came up. I'd call you a lier and say, you lie all the time :) whoever you is.

    I remember when I was at the Diggers that Emmett had several names, one was Kenny Wisdom. If they got raided looking for Emmett , they would all say their name was Emmett except for Emmett and then he was Kenny Wisdom. Then again, they were The Merry Pranksters.
     
  3. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Hey Kenny et al: I just heard from Spud, he's gonna send in some tales. Darel also said he was gonna do one and had one that was promitly on his mind, so we have two more to add along with Zev. WEEEEeeeee!!!
     
  4. Ranger

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    You can always go on Facebook and contact either Tony S. or his old pard Dale Metcalf both of whom are on there. Just go to their FB page and go to message and send a note mentioning GE aand your e-mail addy and FB will d4eliver it to their email box.

    It's always been my understanding that in order to be fleeing prosecution you had to be aware of an outstanding wrrent or some such.
     
  5. wlzev

    wlzev Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Ranger;
    I'll try. But every tiime I've tried to contact TS he's not answered my emails. It is my understanding that you don't have to have knowledge of an active warrant. However as criminal law is not my specialty I'll have to do some research on the subject unless TC or DM reply. I'll let y'all know what's what when i find out.
    ZEV
     
  6. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    A friend of mine was Melvin Belli's manager. Will that connection work? Just an idea.

    Whoops. Wikipedia.com says that he's dead.
    Melvin Mouron Belli (July 29, 1907 – July 9, 1996)[1] was a prominent American lawyer known as "The King of Torts" and by detractors as 'Melvin Bellicose'. He had many celebrity clients, including Zsa Zsa Gabor, Errol Flynn, Chuck Berry, Muhammad Ali, Sirhan Sirhan, the Rolling Stones, Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye Bakker, Martha Mitchell, Lana Turner, Tony Curtis, and Mae West. He won over USD $600,000,000 in judgments during his legal career.
     
  7. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Sorry group. I'm been gone. Other city. Eye Doctor follow-up. No new news.

    Just send the full trip. We artfully edit and send it back to you. Nothing will become a final release without a review by you and a full review by all who are concerned.

    Example: I sold something. I moved something. Or some other cleaver turn of phrase.

    Nothing is carved in stone. All things will be change.
    Just tell a tale, for now.

    I you look at my "Twenty Hippies" story you will see that there is a add-on at the end that plainly states the there was a bust and court. And the tales is told artfully and vaguely. Go and check it.

    I do rewrites. Not to worry.
     
  8. wlzev

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    I believe BELLI was a civil litigator & not a criminal attorney. So am I. I need the counsel of a criminal defense lawyer.
     
  9. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Cakes. I put these up. Cliff went up a few minutes ago. Please review. Comment back, e-mail. THX

    I FINALLY finished a new one of mine, it's up.

    Critiques Anyone?

    1967

    Bra Burning
    Nailcakes © 1967

    Cliff
    Nailcakes © 1967

    1968

    Thompson’s Ranch
    Scorpio Kenny © 1968
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    Happy Reading.
     
  10. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Hey gang, It is starting to get to the point where we're (I guess me. LOL) are going to have to start considering all of the business shit in reality that goes hand in hand with what we're up to.

    Do we start our own publishing company and hire an accountant? If so, then I like "Money In Perpetuity, Publishing ™" for a name. What do you think, Beach-dog?
    Or do we go to a publishing company? And see what we can get from them, money wise.

    $35 online file copyright. Should I just put the whole collection as a publication (one book) in my name just for bulk safekeeping? Or would you prefer individual filing at 35 each for your own collection. And then also file © for the book as a compilation as well?

    Accounting for IRS and state? And filing. My Lady said she would take charge of everything in her name (She has an accountant already), as some of us are in fixed income requirement situations. It would look funny if we where still getting food stamps, but we were listed as the president of a corporation. If ya see what I mean. Cover yer ass.

    We will need a clear name or names for such things as business bank account, IRS tax, State tax, retail sales tax (state, county, city), Visa account, Master card account, Pay Pal connected to the bank account. Real business with Amazon and others. This is just the beginning.

    I need to draft author contracts that protect you yet cover the butt of the book.
    I need to draft photographer contracts that protect you or photographers yet cover the butt of the book.
    I need to draft mutual trade contracts for our connections with other people for the usage of their artwork, photos, Lyrics, or any other types of work, in exchange for inclusion in our book that would include their name address business phone web site, and how to buy from them.

    A business charter. Coop or whatever. And file the company with a state. Pick a state.
    LLC, S-corporation, Inc. Partnership. So, many questions.

    What do you guys think that we should do???

    In the simplest terms we need a machine that collects all of the sales, saves some for a first printing, will allot or spend money for any bills or services, does the books (accounting), pays all of the taxes and fees.
    Then divvies out each writers piece of the pie. That kind of machine.

    Any Thoughts?
     
  11. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Kenny,
    I just read your new story, I loved it.. too cool. Poor boy. I do feel sorry for you seeing bare tities at your young and tender age..lol
     
  12. Tillerwah

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    Hi Kenny

    Not a lot of time right now as Caleb and Andree (my second son and wife) are heading to Hospital at 10 am to check in for a C-section tommorrow. AND I need to see my Docs at 2 pm.

    RE the Publishing: and this is just a thought from Sheila who also is an ALMOST accountant (not a legal CPA but almost one) who has handled HUGE issues re Business/money/and taxes for over 25 years.

    Maybe start a Deleware Corp (start off as an S corp and if it blows up convert to a C Corp). The Coporation would allow ALL to become a single entity that all would own as shareholders. That wouild allow all to own the rights to the Publishing/Copyright/Distrubution online sales etc. Also if say like you do a lot of work then you get reimburses from COPORATE funds as would anyone else who becomes a worker BESIDES Shareholder!

    If you do this then EVERYONE who contributes storyes can be given STOCK in the Corp as it related to their Story input. Example 10 stories 10 shares with a TOP LIMIT of X percentage no matter how much you write. This way you/G.E./US can control all aspects of the "BOOK PROJECT". Also as more things are added like Mueseum/Pictures/OLD HIPPIE HOME etc the Corp can be the umbrella that also is the entity that all this falls under. Of course doing this means doing the Corporation things like annual shareholder meetings, Board of directors etc..BUT that is really easy can be done online today etc.

    We have keep our Corp going for years now and in the MOST EXPENSIVE place to do it CALIFORNIA. BUT this has allowed us to control what we do and whenever we change direction as to what the income stream is we utilize the Corporation to LEGALLY ajust to the needs of the day and the Shareholders (Sheila and I) are able to control the way it works within the LAW.

    This also covers the TAX element which can be hugely reduced by utilizing Coporate Law to take advantage of Expensing/Depreciation and dispersion of funds. This also keeps us totally LEGAL as Taxes are figured in and PROFITS can be controlled and dispersed in a multiple of ways to fit the need. Either as Dividends or even payroll.

    ALSO IF this truly blows then you/we/the Corp can also get a Medical Plan that all share holders/workers can elect to become part of etc.

    Just a thought and if other things happen in future it can ALL be handled through the Coporation for the Benifit of all or even just the few. May sound like this is a cop out to the SYSTEM BUT in fact this is a GREAT way to play the "MANS" game on "HIS /ITS" field utilizing the system for our benifits!! AND The smart way to play in the SYSTEM it to utilize its rules to WIN at their game even tho we are the PLAYERS we control our efforts that way! VA/Benifits/ etc.

    Just a thought

    I need to run but as per the questions about Statute of limitations HMM maybe just do what they all do....make the statement The Book THIS IS A NON FICTION NOVEL ANY AND ALL REFERENCES to any person either Living or deceases is coinsidental(sp)yada yada yada,,,,,

    Zev does that protect the INNOCENT or (US LOL)
    Peace and Love
    wickwah/Chris
     
  13. Tillerwah

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    Kenny you can be an officer of a Corp and NOT effected any of your brnifits!!! It is ALL about how you take income!!!! Dispersions can be put into many different ways to protect what benifits you recieve. I am on Social Security and I am also a NON PAID officer of the Coporation!! E-mail me as we have faced this issue for 5 years now!!!

    ww
     
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    OH well just for all to know a Corp can pay expenses for MANY ACTIONS that are not considered Income...YET. Owning Share EVEN if they pay dividends can be adjusted to not effect Living STATUS of the Shareholder!! ESPECIALLY if the taxes are pain by Corp. But this should be understood so all would feel comfortable. I need to really go now LOL LOL

    ww
     
  15. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Happy Grandkid to you.
    Happy Grandkid to you.
    Hope everything is all right with you at your doctor's.
    Happy Grandkid to Sheila and you.

    To the tune of Happy Birthday.
     
  16. wlzev

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    I think my worries were for naught. My research shows that even if you leave the state the Statute of Limitatiions can only be extended for 3 years as long is was a non-capitol expense. I'm hoping to get confirmaiton on this soon.
     
  17. wlzev

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    Mazal tov Chris & Shiela
     
  18. dfwolverineGE

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    Hi my hippie friends !!!!! Just thought you'd like to know. I will be writing several stories. About our many adventures!.Making an outline and researching the facts.!! It'll have all the drama of an exciting tale. The only thing is,...... this isn't fiction folks, it's the real deal !!!! Like Mary said. It'll be a best seller.!!!! In this country and the world!! Eye was talking to Leo Mike last week on his birthday and he said, " the experience we shared together was more then most ppl experienced in 2 or 3 life times".!!!! And I told him, ere got that rite Stymie!! We both laughed!!!!! Other than that i'am still working at La Quinta as a Maintenance/engineer. Trying to keep things together. Still scraping hides and chipping arrowheads such is my lot in life..!!! Please drop by my Facebook page and check out my posts, videos and photos !! My friends list is approaching 3,000 friends from all over the world and maybe some that! Are not of this world. Who knows??!! You are all In the sacred lodge in my heart... Hoka-hey!!! I love you........... Sea-ya !!! Lol !!!
     
  19. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Cakes! Ranger!

    Zev is on page 46! HuhRay!!!!!!
     
  20. dfwolverineGE

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    Hey Kenny!! Great profile photo! How do eye upload one for myself??? And yes agree, first pick a name for the publishing co, then a accoutent. Ofcourse the more we do yourselves the less our overhead will be!! And i'am sure we all realize that!! Good Earth as always done things in this way.!! Please contact me if there's anything I can do!!! The face paint is on!!! Where are we going ......... To the top!!!!!!! Lvya. Sagdarel
     

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