Church Operations Business

Discussion in 'Church of the Good Earth' started by Scorpio Kenny, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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  2. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    That's a 2/3 majority. That's all.

    I hereby move that we Close the voting on that vote and that's there be no further voting on that issue.

    Is there a second on this?
    And we have a vote to close it?
     
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  4. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    That's what I mean.
     
  5. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Can we vote to close close or end the voting on that issue?
     
  6. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    What?

    I have showed you all there is to see, all the motions being second motions to close being second

    Every one that I can see has had their say. Even You so what is it that we are needing to do NOW, this minute
     
  7. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    I second the motion to close the voting on officers and VOTE YES by gawd
     
  8. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    You're not getting what I'm saying at all.

    Lets say that there are 5 people who can vote on something.
    Let say that only 3 people are around to vote.
    Lets say that the other 2 are absent, at the time of the voting.

    Lets say that the 3 people all vote yes, and approve something.

    It wins by a majority. Right?

    So, how do we record this in the Minutes of the meeting?
    Do we say.
    it passes 3-0.
    it passes 3-0, with 2 were absent.
    Do we say it passes 3-2.

    What exactly do we write down in the Minute as the official record of the vote?

    Here's the problem.

    If 2 days later or 8 days later, the other 2 people show up and they vote no, then the record in the minutes is a lie.
    It will change it to 3 to 2. Not 3 - 0

    What if they come along later and both vote Yes.
    then the record is a lie, because it states 3 yes, now its 5 yes.

    The new vote is 5 to 0

    Parliamentary procedure does not allow for you to do things that way. These problems have all been run into in the past, by others.

    Parliamentary rules would have you properly vote to CLOSE the voting, and to except no further votes on the issue.
    Thereby making it a closed matter.

    This, for us, is particularly important, because of the fact that we are having a style of meeting that lasts for a period of time, over days and days.

    Proper procedure is to close the vote. Then record. the vote.

    Does anyone get what I'm saying?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
     
  9. Ranger

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    Kenny, I requested and was granted the floor' You are out of order!
    My request that you slow down and itemize your points with documentation both from the posts and relevant points of order from RRofO seems to have been ignored by you while Mary has documented her rebuttals. Please yield the floor untll you can present you arguements in an orderly fashion as requested.
     
  10. shameless_heifer

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  11. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Yes, I agree with you. That vote was voted and it was won by a majority of the voting.

    I NOW Move to CLOSE THE VOTING on that Issue. (so that one can come by her tomorrow and legally vote on it)

    I Have made a Motion to Close the voting as to that issue.

    Is there a second?
     
  12. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Even if the were a motion to close the voting on that issue, and it were seconded, there were No votes cast.


    If there actually were any votes cast, and somehow I missed that, Then there were only 2 vote for. That's not a majority.

    So, if you want to close the meeting, than it shall be recorded that the issue of ending that voting, lost, with no clear majority.
    The voting on that issue is still OPEN for additional valid votes to be heard. And the new votes are welcomed. Get it?

    This doesn't make sense to you guys?
     
  13. shameless_heifer

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    So Ranger you need to Vote to close the meeting on voting for officers so we will have a majority and Kenny will have his minutes.
     
  14. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    and along comes Chris...lol.. hold on to her hat buddy..it's a bumpy ride but then it smooths out to a gentle roar
     
  15. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    I second the motion and vote YES to close the voting on officers
     
  16. mike bedell

    mike bedell Member

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    Darn, Im late again
     
  17. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    I vote for ending the voting for officers.

    Duh ME, actually that one was unanimous. We don't need to close something that was unanimous.

    I move that we close and end the vote for all of the Executive Board Members. That votes needs to be ended.

    Is there a second?
     
  18. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    .. ya snooze ya lose darlin'..
     
  19. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    catch that second Mike, hurry before someone grabs it..lol
     
  20. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Ranger is requesting Chapter and verse, so this is form way back on page 26.


     

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