Climate Change

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David Vanzant, Jan 12, 2023.

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  1. ChinaCatSunflower002

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    Correct. It’s like we are in a lucid dream or movie. However, the bad guys still exist in the dream or movie. Even though it’s all just a dream, there’s still the adventure of waking reality up to itself.

    I reckon evil exists because of the Consciousness of those who possess it. A lower vibration based on materiality will breed a low vibration of actions. But I remain hopeful that they can raise their vibration. I don’t think evil can’t be reversed or risen above.
     
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    I don’t see why you’re now using a theoretical physicist and cosmologist to argue against Simulation Theory when you are arguing against me using a physicist to argue against Climate Change. These “rules” you two are invoking you seem to be making up on the spot of when you can and can’t challenge any particular theory, which conveniently aligns with your particular views.
     
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    I will also elaborate that these people may also know the psychological laws or forces at play, and so they are quite skilled at hypnotizing the masses in order to control them. You could call it Dark Psychology, Black Magick, Sociopathy, etc.

    They’re like Grandmasters in Chess just whipping on the amateur masses, repeatedly and ruthlessly.
     
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  7. MeAgain

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    Could you please give us an explanation of what you think science is and how it works, especially in regards to climate?
     
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    You are assuming computer models are based on beliefs, when in fact they are based on years of gathered data.
    What Are Climate Models and How Accurate Are They?
     
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    I am not holding myself up as an expert in anything, never did.
    I am citing the consensus of experts in the field of climatology.
    I am looking at the debate and reporting the consensus opinion of thousands of climatologists.
    My argument is not based on my expertise, it is based on the consensus of the majority of climatologists, who are the experts.

    Your argument is based on a few experts from various fields whose opinions, or research, is not supported by the majority of climatologists.
    I'm not the one questioning your experts, the majority of climatologists are the ones questioning them.
     
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    You are comparing the quantum theory of interactions at a fundamental level with interactions at a classical level of physics.

    Reality is that which occurs at both the quantum and classical levels.
    Your claim that reality is entirely subjective is flawed in that while a measurement in the double slit experiment can be subjectively influenced, therefore causing you to claim that all reality is subjective; measurements in experiments conducted at the classical level can not be subjectively influenced, and are therefore objective.

    Climatology, just like kinematics, thermodynamics, etc. works at a classical level of physics, not a quantum level and is therefore is objective.
     
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    What people are you talking about?

    You are claiming there is an elite set of people that are using magic (manipulating the laws of science) to control us in order to enslave the world?
     
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    Really? Who are THEY? Do you know THEM? How did you find out about THEM? What evidence do you have that THEY're engaging in these activities? Are THEY as skilled at hypnotizing the masses as the American Petroleum Institute and fossil fuel companies are?
    Study Exposes Climate Claims by Big Oil as Corporate Propaganda
    The forgotten oil ads that told us climate change was nothing
    California lawsuit says oil giants deceived public on climate, seeks funds for storm damage
     
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    Objective reality is existence " as such.." : The world of facts. Independent of anyone's thoughts, opinions or feelings.
    Subjective reality is the inner world of the mind. The world of emotions and feelings. It is composed of ones own thoughts, opinions , judgements and emotions.
    Objective takes precedence over subjective. Facts trump feelings. Subjective feelings should conform themselves to objective facts.
    A refusal to accept a fact does make a fact disappear. If your theory does not fit the facts, your theory is wrong.
    Everyone has different opinions, thoughts of feelings, therefore some can conclude that there are no such things as facts, only opinions, thoughts and feelings and concludes that certain knowledge is impossible.

    To hypothesize , is to bestir in certain minds, the quest for facts of any matter, scientific or otherwise.
     
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    Since i mentioned here, has anyone attemped to cloud bust? & yes there are both dark & light influencers. & some realities simply cant be proven by certain methods. This is because certain stumbling were in place longtime. But some of these stumbling blocks are being removed. This is because humanitys influence reached certain points. Naturally reality is much deeper than just that.
     
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    Pres. Eisenhower warned us of militaryindustrialcomplex, in his outgoing speech.
    Then, not long afterward, during lbj regime. Weather Modification capabilities, were blatantly spelled out for us. A sorta selfulfilling prophecy. Which had been going on, long before.
    Abt 8yrs ago, i noticed chemtrails in the film Billy Jack. I'd previously only known of em, since abt '98. It actualy took me a few months, to convince ppl of this. Afterward, the concept was noticed a bit more. I'm even seeing em, in 1930's films. A lame o conpiracy is that someone altered some of these films.
    By the way, did anyone notice awhile back? That some socalled experts came up with new cloud formations?
    Who was gullible enough to fall for that? Come on, don't be shy. Almost @ samettime, some brainiac declared pizza to be a veggie.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Something else that can be discussed back and forth until kingdom come.
     
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    "bad arguments...."
     
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