Climate Change

Ever wonder how extreme urban overbuilding might also be affecting our already-fragile climate?

There are now skyscrapers so high that they make the Empire State Building and the original Twin Towers (WTC) look diminitutive by comparison.

WHY do we have to build buildings so tall that they practically pierce the stratosphere?

To show other cities (and nations) that can top anything they can do?

Look at how deeply foundations are being dug for such massive, towering buildings (anyone ever worry about possibly aggravating long-dormant fissure or crack that could, possibly, trigger a massive earthquake?)

In far too many areas, concrete and steel are replacing grass, trees, and wildlife.

With the word's population ever growing, where are the resources coming from, to feed, clothe, and house them all?

IMHO, climate change/global warming will only be further aggravated, until the ever-smug human race FINALLY decides to work TOGETHER and avert a world-wide climatic disaster, one from which there is no return.........

 

Here's another very serious issue regarding climate change........

Environmental issues with coral reefs - Wikipedia

 

And the original definition of Liberal was someone who valued laissez-faire Free Market Capitalism and Individualism, despised taxation, and promoted deregulation, also known today as Classical Liberalism. Terms morph and change over time.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia

 

The big myth is that capitalism is or ever has been anything resembling a free market. It wasn’t in olde England, it wasn’t in the gay 90s, and it dam sure isn’t now. Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, T….give me a break! It’s all about control of the market, a very large class of poor people and getting more. Journalists need to stop pushing the big lie as if were some holy grail. Just all your poor folk work harder and you could be rich too. Yea, right! By the way this thread has been blown off course from its charter.

 

Oh, it's a democrat hoax. Yeah--uh--huh. A hoax. I know cuz I'm cold this morning. See--I have empirical data.

 

Way, way, way back in the late 1800's/1900's, big-shot politicians frequently used terms such as "factory hands", "field hands", etc., to describe the average working man.

The larger-than-life Eugene Debs (back in the 1900's) would comment at political rallies: "Sure, they refer to the working man as 'hands', as all the WORK is being done with YOUR hands, while THEIR hands are at work emptying YOUR pockets!"

Words ringin' true today, for sure..............

 

See:

Eugene V. Debs - Wikipedia

 

If you want to criticize Capitalism, fine. But then also never use Amazon, throw away your iPhone, etc.

I don’t actually take issue with the ultimately incorrect and misguided blaming of Capitalism as much as I do with Leftists’ so-called solution to the “problem”.

A Nanny State or all-controlling Government is definitely not the “solution” to the “problem”. Just ask anyone who’s ACTUALLY lived under Communism, not White American Liberals who don’t have a clue.

If your ideas of a “solution” are to become a radically more impoverished, enslaved, and overall worse society, I question your overall intelligence.

Get rid of Capitalism or the private sector and you will have gotten rid of most of the wealth of the modern world and everyday first-world luxuries that you take for granted every day.

 

One of Mr. Debs' notable quotes:

"Equality is the way"

 

So does the MAGA crowd realize they're fighting to have their power taken away from them?

 

Anyway back to climate change!

 

That's correct. Parties on the right were parties of privilege: the monarchy, the aristocracy, and the clergy. In America, we didn't have such well-defined social classes, but we retained the terminology for conservative vs. liberal.

 

I noted too that in times where I see a correlation or parallels and coinciding changes, causation is undermined by lack of substantiation.

What that means is there are changes, and there is pollution. Does it mean that the changes are because of the pollution?

I don't think we know, but that what we do know is that 'by the time we know it will likely be too late to do anything' and that now it would be wise and thoughtful for us to make changes.

I think Tesla Model 2 will change the game considerably. Currently electric vehicles that are lower in cost but still boast a considerable range per charge (Hyundai Kona, Kia Niro, Chevy Bolt, etc.) aren't as spiffy. They are available used for around $20,000 and with a little bit of credit history, you could probably find a loan on those, or even a Model 3 (at the lowest about $24,000, but usually closer to $27,000). But their battery isn't as predictable/dependable after 200,000 miles. That's a lot, and it isn't hard to find a vehicle with around 40,000 miles for $1,000 more on Autotrader or Carvana. It still has 160,000 miles until a potential battery replacement. But the battery replacement is exorbitant at best...: electric vehicle battery replacement cost - Google Search



That has me pessimistic about even buying one. I'm hoping at some point they will offer a program to help with the cost; perhaps manufacturer agreeing to match what the motorist contributes into a replacement fund over the course of 200,000 miles.

Anyway, Tesla Model 2 will likely MSRP at less than $30,000. That makes it more do-able for a modest income household and more intelligent to finance than a used make and model for the same price in terms of battery life.

 

Plenty. Like I said words morph and change over time. It’s easy to attempt to brand anything Right-Wing as “fascist” or “evil” if you’re lazy.

Classical Liberalism could also be considered True Liberalism or Original Liberalism. It stood up for the freedom and autonomy of the Individual. It values freedom over oppression. It values Individualism over Collectivism. It values Capitalism because a Free Market is friendly to a free individual, while a controlled top-down economy is not. It values small government, deregulation, and minimal taxation because it values the freedom of the individual from the over-arching control of the Government. Once upon a time, these ideas were considered Liberal. It’s how the United States was formed and is a part of what once made this country unique.

Today, it’s branded as “Right-Wing Fascist Libertarianism”…whatever the hell that’s supposed to even mean.

 

You’re the one who started the discussion of the history of political words, not me.

 

Can we please get back to the subject of climate change?

 

I want to hear some people giving timelines on here. If we don’t do such and such by such and such date, what happens?