Colbert and Stewart

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by jmt, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. Skizm

    Skizm Member

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    I am a Stewart/Colbert fan so I'll attempt to defend them ONLY because I think y'all are interpreting their shows wrong.

    Both of these shows take what is going on in today's world and make fun of it. There is no agenda for either show, they make fun of whomever decides to fuck up.

    Now, these shows may seem to have it out for certain groups (Conservatives generally). However, if you look at the material they are using, it becomes clear that conservative news stations and people just give them more material to use.

    For example, making fun of FOX's ideas of: a)anti-reform protestors are true Americans and pro-reform people are nazis hell-bent on destroying American culture. b) Obama is a racist. c)Death panels, pulling the plug on grandma, preferential treatment for democrats because they helped push the health-care through.

    Anyone noticing a theme here? It's ALLLLLLL bullshit. Don't take this as an attempt to defend the news stations that lean to the left though, they're bullshit too.

    All this stuff happens to be comedy gold though. As for Colbert's and Stewart's personal political views? Sure they inject them now and again but it is in a rational manner. You KNOW when they are doing it and you can choose to disagree or agree, just like with everything political. Saying they push their views is a little much though.
     
  2. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    I guess we're not watching the same shows.
     
  3. Skizm

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    I get the feeling that Obama is doing shitty by a) colbert+stewart b) some non-mainstream news outlets. I've never once gotten the feeling that they are trying to mask his problems.

    Both of them make fun of him for everything he does wrong.
     
  4. kzf68xC8

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    How so? In what way do you see him becoming like Hitler?
     
  5. Skizm

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    Exterminating the jews, gays, and old people... Duhhhhhhhh
     
  6. kzf68xC8

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    Oh ok. I am not sure how David Axelrod and Rahm Emanual will take the extermination of jews. I am sure they won't be happy.
     
  7. Zorba The Grape

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    Don't listen to that shit. There are several reasons why I see Obama as having the potential to become a tyrant. The first is his status as a cult figure, which is very reminiscent of Hitler. The other, major one is the people who back him and the policies he is putting forward. It's got nothing to do with Jews.
     
  8. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    yeah i notice that too i was in this reall ghetto area here in miami at a supermarket and outside they were selling obama watch, wall clocks, calenders, hand bands, and flags with his family on it.
     
  9. kzf68xC8

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    Those day have passed I do not see his "cult status" anymore.

    What policies is he putting foward that remind you of Hitler?

    Sorry but every time someone puts forth this "Obama is Hitler", they never explain it and if they do, it is complete and utter B.S.
     
  10. goatman123

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    its obvious obama is hitler, colbert told us so. remember he and that black dude were selling hitler mustaches to put on all obama products. did you know both hitlers mom and obamas mom are both white, scary.
     
  11. Skizm

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    But universal healthcare is socialism!! wahwahwahwah

    So is Social Security, Medicare/aid, Food Stamps, subsidized student loans. If you're going to scream socialism at least be consistent. Don't pussy foot around the socialized things you like and cry wolf at the ones you dislike.

    I mean just look at the legislation that the Bush administration passed: warrantless wiretaps and suspension of habeas corpus. That shit was really scary. Don't defend it with "But the terrorists would have gotten me!" because the ENTIRE thing was made up. The terror gauge? Scare tactic, the guy who ran it was forced by the Bush administration to raise it close to election time to get Bush re-elected.

    No president, in the HISTORY of the United States has taken away as many freedoms as George W. Bush did.

    Now, I'm not saying I'm happy with Obama, but comparing him to Hitler is insane.
     
  12. Zorba The Grape

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    He's obviously done nothing as horrific as Hitler yet. All I'm saying is that I can see it happening. Most people in Germany loved Hitler in the beginning, many continued to love him till the end. I'm not a person who raises Hitler as the example of ultimate evil. He was a fucked up guy, but ultimately he was more-or-less following orders. I would be more inclined to demonize the people behind him. I don't usually compare Obama with Hitler, because for most people that's just done for shock value. But I won't deny the similarities either.

    Obama is, I think, most like Hitler in that he is a (somewhat) charismatic leader who's willing to do whatever he's told by his backers, just like Hitler. In the end, they're both pawns.
     
  13. Skizm

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    We're you conscious from 2000-2008? Did you just tune that entire period of time out? Or do you have selective memory THAT bad.

    George W. Bush was the definition of a pawn. I understand what you're saying, but comparing Obama and Hitler based on the fact that they were liked by the people is also insane. That means every president ever elected was just like Hitler. *Gasp* We're pseudo-German!

    p.s I just saw that you're Canadian. Everything makes sense.
     
  14. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    not really I dont remember the bushs having a warm welcome.

    stop bring in him down cuz his canadian.
     
  15. Skizm

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    I love Canada, I dislike Canadians commenting on a president's likeness to Hitler because they heard about it on the news.

    The Bush family did have a warm-welcome though, from the conservatives in America.

    However, for those not seeing my point let's go over a few things.

    One quick definition
    Habeas Corpus- The right to see the evidence against you and know why you're being held and for how long.

    Bush policies
    • Suspension of Habeas Corpus(Tyranical)
    • Arrest of dissenters(Tyranical)
    • Patriot Act(Socialism)
    • Warrantless Wiretaps(Socialism, breach of fourth amendment)
    • Rendition (Tyranical, putting prisoners in other countries so we can torture them)

    USA Patriot Act
    • Warrantless Wiretaps
    • Monitoring of e-mail
    • Random acts of shitting on the constitution

    Obama policies
    • Guns in national parks
    • Attempt to greatly expand government healthcare(Socialism)
    • Continuation of Stimulus Package(Socialism)
    • Rescue of large troubled banks(Socialism)
    • killing old people lawlz

    Now, BOTH presidents are guility of violating our freedoms and expanding socialist institutions. Obama though? He's a god damn girl-scout compared to Bush.
     
  16. Styve--At-Large

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    obama is hitler-like in the sense that he had a huge propagand machine spitting messages of "change" and "hope", each of which not be exactly what was expected.


    stalin also promised change, that change was communism.


    obama still has 3+ years to screw america over.
     
  17. kzf68xC8

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    Who were Hitler's backers?

    Who are Obama's backers?

    The statement "Obama is, I think, most like Hitler in that he is a (somewhat) charismatic leader who's willing to do whatever he's told by his backers" sounds... silly. How many past leaders have been charismatic and "do whatever their backers tell them"? and ended up doing similar things as Hitler?
     
  18. Styve--At-Large

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    bush invade a country.
     
  19. Skizm

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    My junkie friends all tell me they will change but they don't. Man they must be Hitler in disguise. Welcome to how elections are won: YOU PROMISE SHIT YOU CAN'T DO.
     
  20. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    but theirs hasn't been anyone! ANYONE as charismatic as obama in the last 50 years!!!


    keep believe that his going to save america.......by then he'll be pushing forward for the RFID chip...:mad:
     

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