Communism Is A Disease

these days they're third strongest...

and Grebeníèek is idiot..

and do YOU know all of them?!?

I guess I could know them much more when I live in the same country as they want to kill, not?!

 

Jana, I think you misquoted me. I said KSČM.

Second, you don't know all communists. How many communists do you know, personally?

I'm opposed to liberalism and conservativism, but at the same time, I do recognize that there are liberalists and conservatives who are in fact, smart. But if you want to call your political opponents "idiots", then go ahead. But it won't change the reality.

Because there is no such thing as a "communist country" or a "communist state".

 

Being a great artist makes you a great artist. Supporting communism makes you an idiot. This is a scientific fact.

On some computers, KSČM will appear as KSÈM, by the way.

Communism? FUJ! (Ale ne mluvim cesky)

 

Okay, why don't you play with Jana here in your little sandbox. There is no point in discussing with people who do not know how to point out constructive criticism.

 

Why argue with Jana? We agree. You're a bit slow, aren't you?

 

please?

 

Pointbreak:

Definition of Argue: "present reasons and arguments" or "Present the reasons for supporting and/or opposing something."

 

Member with nick "communism" is a typical example, how communists are stupid.

 

Sure, and sometimes "camel" turns into "horseshit".



Fighting over the internet is like being in the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. So let's see some constructive criticism, shall we?

 

Pointbreak, don't try to talk to "communism"..
I was trying several times, but I was always just angry.. and sad about his stupidity.

 

I would like to see some constructive criticism.

 

oh yeah... and sometimes I can even see nick names turned into something else.. like I see that nick name "communism" turned into "asshole".

 

about what?

 

See the name of this thread.

 

Communism is a disease because it makes pain.. It kills people, though It can look like a good idea, past shows it really doesn't work.

 

Sorry Jana, I just do it for laughs. He's a bit bizarre isn't he. Its a strange thing, everyone hates the extreme right but somehow supporting murderers on the extreme left is OK. In a way he's like a living musem, if you wanted to look back and see how insane the world was at one point.

Communism, do you know what a font is? Do you know what the "encoding" feature on your browser is for?

 

I don't agree with The Idea of communism because I don't think it works, but atleast communism (The poster on these forums) is backing up his claims, as opposed to people like pointbreak who blabber on like idiots with their meaningless insults and garbage...why don't we actually have a real argument here.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

That is an ignorant statement for so many reasons. And if some of you are going to point out that there was no "communist state" or whatever you said... then how can it be a disease and cause pain?

I think some people look at the downfalls of socialism and get it confused with a true communist society.

 

Spot on, interval_illusion.



And thank you, Angel_Headed_Hipster.



I will quote Engels:

"The state is, therefore, by no means a power forced on society from without; just as little is it 'the reality of the ethical idea', 'the image and reality of reason', as Hegel maintains. Rather, it is a product of society at a certain stage of development; it is the admission that this society has become entangled in an insoluble contradiction with itself, that it has split into irreconcilable antagonisms which it is powerless to dispel. But in order that these antagonisms, these classes with conflicting economic interests, might not consume themselves and society in fruitless struggle, it became necessary to have a power, seemingly standing above society, that would alleviate the conflict and keep it within the bounds of 'order'; and this power, arisen out of society but placing itself above it, and alienating itself more and more from it, is the state." (Pp.177-78, sixth edition)" - Frederick Engels, The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State


And like Lenin said to the above:
"This expresses with perfect clarity the basic idea of Marxism with regard to the historical role and the meaning of the state."



I will again quote Engels:

"The state, then, has not existed from all eternity. There have been societies that did without it, that had no idea of the state and state power. At a certain stage of economic development, which was necessarily bound up with the split of society into classes, the state became a necessity owing to this split. We are now rapidly approaching a stage in the development of production at which the existence of these classes not only will have ceased to be a necessity, but will become a positive hindrance to production. They will fall as they arose at an earlier stage. Along with them the state will inevitably fall. Society, which will reorganize production on the basis of a free and equal association of the producers, will put the whole machinery of state where it will then belong: into a museum of antiquities, by the side of the spinning-wheel and the bronze axe."


Again will I quote Engels:

"The proletariat seizes from state power and turns the means of production into state property to begin with. But thereby it abolishes itself as the proletariat, abolishes all class distinctions and class antagonisms, and abolishes also the state as state. Society thus far, operating amid class antagonisms, needed the state, that is, an organization of the particular exploiting class, for the maintenance of its external conditions of production, and, therefore, especially, for the purpose of forcibly keeping the exploited class in the conditions of oppression determined by the given mode of production (slavery, serfdom or bondage, wage-labor). The state was the official representative of society as a whole, its concentration in a visible corporation. But it was this only insofar as it was the state of that class which itself represented, for its own time, society as a whole: in ancient times, the state of slave-owning citizens; in the Middle Ages, of the feudal nobility; in our own time, of the bourgeoisie. When at last it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself unnecessary. As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection, as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon the present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from this struggle, are removed, nothing more remains to be held in subjection — nothing necessitating a special coercive force, a state. The first act by which the state really comes forward as the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — is also its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies down of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not 'abolished'. It withers away. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase 'a free people's state', both as to its justifiable use for a long time from an agitational point of view, and as to its ultimate scientific insufficiency; and also of the so-called anarchists' demand that the state be abolished overnight." (Herr Eugen Duhring's Revolution in Science [Anti-Duhring], pp.301-03, third German edition.)

 

I can't believe... how can you call yourself hippie or just a peaceful person when you guard communists!!?? Or maybe you're a commie too..? If you would live in Czech rep., Slovakia, Poland, "Eastern" Germany or Hungary, maybe even in Russia, your point view would be absolutely different..! those people from Czech (as me), Slovakia, etc.. know fucking well that communism doesn't work and is just brainwashing!

Communism is about a system, where "everything belongs to everyone", but how do you wanna do it?!! When you want everyone to have a same possesion, you must STEAL something from rich ones to give to poor ones. And this really doesn't work, coz you don't even have to be much rich or so, and they steal it anyways, so then you're as that "poor one" who's not poor anymore because of you... Look, my grandpa was stolen too. He had a farm and because he didn't want to give that farm to commies, they simply STOLE it and finally arrested my grandpa, because he was an "enemy of regime"..

tell me, is this a right and peaceful idea to live?!