Consciousness revolution

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by vansrouge, May 20, 2011.

  1. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Revolution is not the answer. Reevolution is the answer.

    The band Devo was all about performance art and the name Devo is short for Devolution. The concept is that through modern technology people are devolving. Think about it like this since we have cell phones that store phone numbers we don't have to remember anybodies number. Since we have computers and PDA's (Personal Digital Assistants) like Palm Pilots and Black Berries we don't need to rely on our brains and brain power as much. Text messaging is reducing our vocabularies etc.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  2. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    I ask whether you have tried it because it seems to me that trying to control the ego would just bring about more ego. But if you say it works then I'll have to take your word for it. It just doesn't work for me.
     
  3. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    Hi Brother-
    That is an understatment for sure* *

    JJ:sunny:
     
  4. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    I think mankind is in the process of reaching a higher level of consciousness. Evolution is not something that can be seen in one generation; its always a process occuring over a long period of time and caused by a series of small adaptations.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's not that we're now in a period of change, we always are. When there's no need for rigorous actions (like with things as the development of human beings) the word revolution always seems misplaced to me. Also when it comes to consciousness, that always sounds so individual to me, how does it seems mankind as a whole will enter a higher kind/level?? On the other hand, devolution through (mis)use of technology seems much more realistic unfortunately. Happily IF this will become apparent I'll probably be long gone :D
     
  6. Blissfullyawareofitall

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    Revolutions are over rated. Gradual peaceful change is where it's at!
    With that being said, The conscious revolution you describe has been already observed in many places far beyond this age.

    Look up "tibetan book of the dead", now that's a revolutionary book.
     
  7. vansrouge

    vansrouge Member

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    That's normal. You're trying to understand ego with mind. That's not possible until you reach a point beyond mind. Then mind becomes cleared, easier to see/"think".

    Keep trying, no matter if it's just curiosity.

    Yes it is.

    Language is not that important. We talk (talk talk talk...) to identify with others, to find someone like us. When we find that person, we can talk and there's silence. Sometimes it becomes constraining/compelling.

    Yes, that's a way to see it. Life isn't imutable, so there's always evolution.

    Life is individual, look around, there's many different bodies. It's a group of individuals that forms an "all". There's nothing acting alone, everything works together.

    At renaissance individualism was formed, now it's getting back together.

    Yep, the revolution can be observed at many points of "history". But there are cicles, I take in consideration the 4 ages.

    We are in the age of "ferrum", then comes the age of gold. I didn't now about it until today, but that can "confirm" the revolution I'm talking. The oriental teachings are coming to occident, replacing our vision. We're getting a peaceful vision, an harmony vision. That's good, but I don't see any action against this besides distractions. So I'm worried in some point if there's an action to be taken against us by the "leaders", taking advantage from this teachings and the weapon that love is.
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    For purposes of this discussion, it is the only essential ingredient.

    This is a somewhat garbled statement. The whole defines the part, but the part does not define the whole. Individuals do not come together to form the whole, the whole is expressed diversely. In terms of the absolute, "an all", everything else is an abstraction.
    You speak of an identity crises then?

    This is a specialized vocabulary from a specific teaching, what teaching is it?

    Language defines or sets parameters for sensational experience, how you interpret stimulus. We are never upset by a fact but by the interpretation of fact.
     
  9. vansrouge

    vansrouge Member

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    Language is used to discussions, when we learn to talk in silence, there's "almost" no need to language. Every thing can be done without talking.

    The whole defines the part and the part defines the whole. It's different expressions, but it's the same water, no matter if it's coffe or tea.

    Ego is the same consciousness, but it forgot it's grandiosity. Imagine a tree that it's leaf(s) forgot they were part of the tree. They have imagination to create their reality, they can act like they wish to, it will be different expressions, they will create a meaning to life, but look, they still are part of the tree.

    Yes, I speak of identity crysis.

    I don't know what teaching is it, I don't know almost anything about the 4 ages, it's superficial knowledge.

    I think it can be the 4 noble truth. The golden age reffers to the 4 noble truth.

    Yes, I agree with your last sentence.

    P.S- The tree and the leaf are different expressions of the same seed.

    Edit: My worrie is, can ocident use people's equanimity to run the world their way? I think I need to trust in live and go ahead without questions.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I say the whole defines the part but the part does not define the whole.
    Think of a diamond with many facets. Each facet is capable of it's own reflection, but it does not sparkle in the absence of other facets. Each facet is a face of the diamond, but no face alone can give the full dimensions of the diamond.

    Worry and trust are not the same. I agree with trust as it allows you the confidence to go where you will. Worry has at it's disposal only suspicion at best and viciousness at worst.
     
  11. vansrouge

    vansrouge Member

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    Yes, but it's not what I mean. No face alone can give the full dimensions of the diamond, so life (the whole) is an unification of individualism(s). To identify the diamond you need to see each face together.

    Now see each face as an individual, alone they don't define the whole, but they have the same essence (Carbon). If the same essence is the same seed to every creation, the whole is reflected in individualism, it's always present. So the different forms inside the bubble, are part of the bubble, it's everything that exist.

    This perception can "give" peace to humanity, but it don't stop another expressions from destroying this earth. Anyway, "don't matter" what happens, we will always be here in some way. We created this beautiful earth, so why let it be destroyed? Ok, there's nothing right or wrong, but it's a kind of instinct.
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    You went along pretty good there until you came to the part of opposing will.
    There isn't one. Only separate individuals can have conflicting causes.
     
  13. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    there's an action to be taken against us ...and the weapon is love .


    yes , this is very important . love can be a psychological tool .
    i mean... psycho-illogical . it's like the new jesus who loves you
    commands you wear shoes and please do purchace them rather than make them ... for your safety and the safety of the public and the republic . be so very safe . you are loved .

    you can even have your
    feet cut off . it's painless these days ... miracles abound .

    ?why does a modernly efficient and compassionate soldier bomb , kill , and maim ... love and peace is the answer . that's not the same as peace and love says grandpa .
     
  14. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Here is the rub.

    Language is only 10 percent of communication. The other 90 percent are Tone of voice, volume of voice, facial expressions, body language etc. The medium we are using right now cuts out that other 90 percent leaving only about 10 percent that we go on. Then from there language is also subject to the limitations of the speaker and the limitations of the listener or reader (i.e. lack of vocabulary or comprehension of either).

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  15. ~xR*Z*Nx~

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    Everything in existence is language because First there was God and God is the Word, God Spoke the Word,,, :) the Logos,,,,, All is an Expression and an Expression is language, linguistic
     
  16. ~xR*Z*Nx~

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    I don't remember since the beginning of humanity,, so I have no way of knowing,,, but I get the feeling from in side my self that nothing about the consciousness of man has ever changed,,,,, or ever will,,,, that this world is specifically designed to exist this way,,, Ultimately,,, it does matter to me absolutely None at all,,, because All I need is Me,,, The Whole is nothing but a Hologram of ONE,,, and that ONE is me,,, because the beautiful thing about my Consciousness is,,, I'm Alone
     
  17. vansrouge

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    I'm full of anger, those stupid assholes are using love as a weapon. There's transcedental meditation, a fucking business, a way to slave people, more and more and more.

    To be happy is necessary courage, it's not waiting, it's doing something. It's easy to be unhappy and dream to be happy. We are unhappy and we do drugs, all kind of drugs, to have some peace. I want to say that I love every people that does drugs, they are the people with courage, they want peace, they don't just dream, they are doing something. The other ones are just fools, they have a fantasy, and that's it. Drugs are a way of ignorance, but it's a start. When the source is found, there's no need to external things.

    At this time, it's hard to deal with equanimity, it's hard to accept those idiots manipulating people. People are ignorant, so they are manipulated. There's no way to control an alive person, so they created dead people, they can be controled.

    The whole thing about orient is just food to ocident fantasy. What's better than a goal to complete hapiness for the people who dream about it? Everyone dreams about hapiness, but almost all of them think it's impossible reach it.
     
  18. indydude

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    Yeap, i've alwasy had a certain bond with drug users/seekers. Every since high school. I've never thought about that until now. Why is that?(wonders to self)
    The source of what? How does one find it? How does one know when they've found the source. What happens after the source is found? Can the source be taught to others? Sorry for all the questions but I'm curious.
     
  19. Styve--At-Large

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    the source of conciousness my man. funny you didnt ask one of the most important questions "WHERE do i find it?" and as cliche as it sounds, you find inside your self.
    How do you find it? you have to face your inner demons with out external influences [such as drugs or alcohol] and accept that life sucks with out killing yourself. yea, its tough, which is why many people wont or cant do it and fall into the bottle or indulge in worldly pleasures.
    you know when you've found the source when you KNOW your conciousness and body are seperate but intertwined. obviously, you cant escape your body.
    after the source is found you go about life living on a higher plain of cognitive maturity. and you'll probably find your self attracted to other people at the same, near the same, or higher level of cognitive maturity. thus is the conciousness revolution, or in my veiw the cognitive evolution.

    can it be taught? nope, only experienced, at least from what i've seen.

    how does one cope the toughness of not killing themself because of how much life sucks you may ask; well that is where love comes in.
    love from friends
    love from family
    love from God
    and of course love has to be shown and returned to the afforemention partys.


    some how love from God works the best. i think its because god is not human.
     
  20. indydude

    indydude Senior Member

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    So, excepting that life sucks is the 'source'? I've known that life sucks since I was a teen. So that's why so many drink and drug and live in a mental haze. I didn't except that life sucked even tho I knew it did? Makes some sense.
    Not sure if I understand this. ?
    This makes sense. Happines is not being a slave to your body or controlled by bodily senses like addictions, aging, hunger, physical pain, etc.
    Yeah, Birds of a feather. We tend to like finding groups we relate too.
    Yea, finding the source is a lonely road but I'd think some groups teach others. You just have to find them. Or bits information is told to others in order to help them find the source. I think this is where religions try to help.
    So, love is the SOURCE?! And it's a paradox of giving it away in order to receive it.
    So, we have to except that life sucks. That the body needs to be overcome. That we need to teach the source to others in order to keep it ourselves.
     

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