Conservatism Should Die, So That Peace & Justice Might Live

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Libertine, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Within the framework of capitalism that would be impossible, you would be setting yourself for failure. Other business will not be playing fair; they will crumble you because they generate more profits by taking more of the value workers create.


    Succeeded only for a few, the vast majority of humanity suffers because of this system.

    Countries with great education and health care are socialists or semi-socialistic.
     
  2. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    How surprising, you are a defeatist. Yet many people do set up cooperative businesses (credit unions, mutual insurance companies, housing co-ops, rural electric power co-ops, consumer goods co-ops (REI), distribution coops (Ace Hardware), producer co-ops (Sunkist, Land O' Lakes). There is nothing illegal about it. The evil overlords of capitalism do not hunt them down.
    Were you wearing your che guevara t-shirt when you said that? Look at North Koreas vs. South Korea. East vs. West Germany. China vs. Taiwan. The former were economic disasters under socialism. The latter brought prosperity to millions under capitalism. Yet you sit there and sneer at the only system that has ever raised any nation out of poverty.
     
  3. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    No, I am realist, if I were to start a company I have to play the game or change the system.



    They all lack democracy.
    African Capitalism is failing for the same reason branches of socialism failed.

    What is one pure capitalistic country that worked?
     
  4. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Realist, is that the new word for people who do nothing but complain? Do you think anybody who changed anything about this world was a realist? Because
    You mean they all lack utopia.
     
  5. grimjivey

    grimjivey Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    If you can make unsubstanciated blanket statements, than so can I.

    For every one person who does well under globalism, there are ten who suffer.

    Why are YOU still beating a dead horse Pointbreak?
     
  6. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Capitalism fails in a great many areas: Healthcare, Pharmacy, Social Services, Environmental Controls, etc.

    In terms of increasing wealth, it is a very efficient, self-correcting system.
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Absolutely CORRECT!
     
  8. Leopold Plumtree

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    The monetary system definitely impedes more progress than it ever enables.
     
  9. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    What is one pure capitalistic country that worked?
     
  10. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Because profits are first priority you produce the best cost-effective product not necessary the best quality.

    The best technology and leaps are only approached if they are cost-effective and profitable and if they are not then they are delayed.

    Competition reduces quality.


    A great idea might come alone to advance humanity but if it isn't profitable to capitalists (owners of the means of production) then it would be disregarded and hid.
     
  11. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Yep.

    Money to research, money to produce


    [M]oney is a barren Thing, and produces nothing, but by Compact, transfers that Profit, that was the Reward of one Man's Labour, into another Man's Pocket. - John Locke
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    if one were to conserve what god and nature had in mind, there would be no gratuitous conventionality.
    clearly conservatism is a misnomer, and in all likelyhood a premeditated one from the beggining.

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