Counselor screwed me

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by LurdGanaro, Dec 5, 2010.

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  1. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    I Do Not Wish To Sound In The Least Offensive Lilly, But At The Ripe Old Age Of

    48, Isn't It Time To Forget The Past And Get On With Your Life...:rolleyes:.

    Life Is Shorter Than What You Think, Forget The Past, And Live What You

    Have Left To The Max.[​IMG]

    I Have Lost So Many Friends Over The Last 12 Months To, Cancer, Stroke,

    Heart Attack, Aids, Suicide, etc etc.

    As Such I Feel Your Approach To Life Is In Serious Need Of A"Reasessment".

    Take The Time To Embrace Life, We Only Get One Shot At It...:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
  2. enk

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    I don't have much left to say to you. (seeing as you're not going to even bother thinking, let alone responding to all my posts)

    You are not philosophical, and not altruistic. So what I have to say to you will probably fly over your head.

    Go read some Gandhi, maybe some Nietzsche.

    It just seems you love vengeance and punishment and you call it justice and duty.

    And over something so petty. a touch.

    It wasn't even non-consensual from what I gather.

    I feel like I'm talking to a wall here..and unreflective, un-thinking wall of hatred.

    May someone forgive you for your mistakes one day, and then you can reflect on how you treat others who also make mistakes.
     
  3. lillallyloukins

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    what has this thread got to do with my life?

    you are wrong...
     
  4. enk

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    mature.

    well at least I now get to call you for what you are.
    A fucking moron.
    What was that you said Invisible soul? if it walks like a duck....
     
  5. lillallyloukins

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    true colours eh love?
     
  6. GLENGLEN

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    Your Entire Argument Has Been Based On The Fact That You As Well As L.G. Were

    Molested At An Early Age.

    Hense My Comment......"HE WHO LIVES IN THE PAST, HAS NO FUTURE".

    On This Post, Ladies And Gentlemen Of The Jury, I Rest My Case...:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
  7. enk

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    where to begin.

    Being abused as a child at 6 entitles us to seek revenge on those who wrong us, you seem to think.

    Allowing someone to touch you, remaining silent and present, not telling them to stop it, not simply leaving!

    Agreeing to go back to his place! Agreeing to sit on his bed!

    This is justification is it?
    and you want us all to sympathize and say 'ooh poor dear'.

    This isn't the first time i've heard the sexually abused prattle on like their the only human to have ever suffered.
     
  8. lillallyloukins

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    you would need a proper lawyer Glen...

    yes, i can empathise with him in that respect, because i understand how it goes... and how to proceed in a healthy direction... i believe that this empathy in no way detracts from anything i have said.... why do you think that it does?
     
  9. lillallyloukins

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    you are obviously not reading the posts and understanding exactly what is being said here.... go back and read them if you want to proceed because i am not going to repeat myself...
     
  10. GLENGLEN

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    And As Such Your Advice Should Have Been>>>>>PROCEED IN A HEALTHY

    DIRECTION L.G., But It Wasn't Was It.???

    I Am Getting Seriously Tired Of This Thread...:(.

    It Has Been Fun, But My Real Worry Is That The "TROLL" Who Started This

    Thread, Is Quietly Watching, *not logged in* And Having A Good Laugh At Our

    Expense...:(.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  11. enk

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    well the only interesting thing you said was that 'abused' people are vulnerable and easily coerced. Maybe so. At the end of the day, he apparently conjured up whatever free-will he had left and said no. and they didn't have sex.
     
  12. lillallyloukins

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    yes, and he should never have been put in that position by a councellor....
     
  13. yarapario

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    A major ingredient is missing in all of this as I see it. What does the word counselor mean in this incident. A counselor can range from a classically trained licenced MD, PhD, MSW professional all the way down to some poor kid whom the school gave a couple of days of training and the title of counselor. A lot of schools and institutions are making haste to address Gay Bullying. They have a few days of training offered to another student who may or may not be gay....may or may not be trained in the field of mental health counseling.
    So herein is the futility of all of this discussion. we don't have all the facts. if this counselor was in fact a trained professional then he did indeed violate boundaries by even asking the OP to come to his room. If the counselor is just some kid with the title stuck on him after a few days training then we have two victims. Lurd has posted a photo of himself and he is indeed a very attactive young man. If the "counselor" is another young man without proper training and experience he may not understand the concept of boundaries well enough to respond professionally. We don't know what this "counselor" is.

    We also have tried this "counselor" without his side of the story...we don't know what the unwanted touch really was or really meant. If it was a groin grope thats one thing, if its a hand on the shoulder or a pat that was meant to comfort or reassure then thats another issue.

    This has been a really polarizing post setting good people on both sides against each other. I've left it open because it has allowed a lot of feelings and expeiences to be shared and the sharing is a good thing. The name calling and animosity doesn't have a place so it needs to stop or I'll stop it.

    There a learning opportunity here folks and that is; get all of the fact before attempting to make a decision. Two lives are in play here, the OP who reported being hurt and the "counselor" who may now be looking at prison time and a lifetime of registration as a sex offender. If the counselor was just a kid with no training who got a title stuck on himself after a weekend seminar then he too is a victim because the response to "SEX OFFENDER" is usually extremely harsh.

    We either get all the facts or we can't have a meaninful discussion. We sure have no business making judgments until we know what we are talking about.
     
  14. enk

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    I don't think what the councilor did was right. Maybe he didn't know. Maybe he's a little messed up too, abused even. Punishment hardens people, it never really works. the wrong-doing is punishment in and of itself. I keep saying this...everyone makes mistakes. yet most people have this lynch mob mentality, which i can't stand.
     
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    yes, it never occured to me that the councellor might be an untrained student... good point, and i would agree that if that is indeed the case, then there have been two victims here...
     
  16. enk

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    sorry for the insult BTW.
     
  17. lillallyloukins

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    i wouldn't want to lynch him, but i don't think he should be working with vulnerable people...
     
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    if you are talking to me, insult forgiven :)
     
  19. Sam_Stoned

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    sounds like a great job if you're looking for ass

    And that's as far as I'm reading...
     
  20. enk

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    yep.
    thank you.
    I'm such an *&%& sometimes
     
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