Creationists Believe the Darndest Things

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Speaking of your self in the third person can be viewed as a sign of narcissism and megalomania.

    That is of course if he was not a fictitious character, of which there is no proof to state otherwise.
     
  2. jumbuli55

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    Darwinists Believe the Darndest Things and then they make fun of Creationists, what an irony!


    At least Creationists honestly admit that their theory originates in religion and thus by definition has nothing to do with the science, even if they don't state so.


    But look at these hoax perpetrating darwinists who not only make the most absurd and baseless of all claims ever known to mankind ("the most primitive single cell archaic organism has evolved into homo sapience in a matter of few billion years by means of random chance and natural selection") but they also dare to insist that such a claim has anything to do with Science!
    And what they have to prove their claim? Oh, that mythical mountain of evidence, so tall and huuuuge that nobody feels the need to present any of it into record!
    Munchausen would be proud of these people!

    What an irony, what an irony !!!
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It could be viewed that way but that doesn't make it so.

    The jury is still out on whether you are a fictitious character or not and I haven't seen any proof to state otherwise. In fact, judging from your avatar, you appear to be a cartoon character. :D
     
  4. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    :rolleyes:

    Does anything else really need to be said?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    You crack me up. :D

    Hey, I was just following your example of making absurd statements. ;)

    You say something like; "That is of course if he was not a fictitious character, of which there is no proof to state otherwise." and then pretend that what I said is any farther from absurdity than what you said. :rolleyes:
     
  6. jumbuli55

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    Darwinists Believe the Darndest Things and then they make fun of Creationists, what an irony!

    At least Creationists honestly admit that their theory originates in religion and thus by definition has nothing to do with the science, even if they don't state so.

    But look at these hoax perpetrating darwinists who not only make the most absurd and baseless of all claims ever known to mankind ("the most primitive single cell archaic organism has evolved into homo sapience in a matter of few billion years by means of random chance and natural selection") but they also dare to insist that such a claim has anything to do with Science!
    And what they have to prove their claim? Oh, that mythical mountain of evidence, so tall and huuuuge that nobody feels the need to present any of it into record!
    Munchausen would be proud of these people!

    What an irony, what an irony !!!

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  7. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    LOL, nice image.

    You're funny, but be honest. Are you having fun with us? ;)
     
  8. Rudenoodle

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    I said there is no proof on favor of the biblical Moses being a real person, in response you accuse me of being fictional. :rolleyes:

    Just clarifying that for you... ;)
     
  9. thedope

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    While there is every possibility that Moses is a historical figure, there is also the equal possibility that a historical figure take on mythical proportions over time.
     
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    Of course I am being serious. It's those darwinist clowns who are having fun with everyone, while pretending that the hoax they call evolutionary theory has anything to do with the science.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

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    Nice try but you said; "That is of course if he was not a fictitious character, of which there is no proof to state otherwise."

    In that statement you suggest that Moses was a fictitious character and then state that there is no proof that he is not.

    Which is typical, trying to make a point by denying historical evidence.

    So I made the similarly absurd statement that you may be a fictitious character, since there is much more historical evidence that Moses existed than there is historical evidence that you exist. :D
     
  12. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, I did say that.

    Thanks for repeating it? :confused:
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yep, more proof that Darwinists believe the Darnedest things. :D
     
  14. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    So I suppose I would ask what proof other than scriptual is there of Moses existence?

    I'm not a Darwinist by the way...
     
  15. def zeppelin

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    lol, you guys are awesome
     
  16. def zeppelin

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    Aiiight, I believe you, kinda :)
     
  17. Monkey Boy

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    Don't believe him dz. :p
     
  18. def zeppelin

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    Does this mean that you believe in theistic evolution? Is it true that we do not yet know the mechanisms behind evolution, so that both adaptation and natural selection may not be true? If that is true, can we still call that evolution?

    Like OWB, I don't see it as a change through natural selection, or adaptation, or not the kind evolutionists see it as. I see it as those variations being already created by God. So that if a creature needs to conform, it will, and it will do so using what is already there and not through mutation... maybe this isn't scientific I suppose... I guess I just believe that on faith because I don't see how if it were truly random (which evolution seems to be purporting) to coincide with a guided process and I do believe it contradicts with Christianity and God existing, therefore making theistic evolution untrue.

    Excuse me if what I said didn't make sense or seemed ignorant. I am just trying to understand this.

    For your second question: I don't know if God needs to allow random chance in order to allow free will. The way that I see it is that God allows us to not only reshape our own reality but our own bodies, but only by using what was already created and was... in a way, preapproved by God.
     
  19. def zeppelin

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    :hat:
     
  20. Monkey Boy

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    Yes, I believe in theistic evolution or directed creation. There is just too much evidence and it makes too much sense for me to ignore. I think Jumbuli has good points to make in that he sheds light on how evolutionary theory is still incomplete. The complexity of life is so mind numbingly elaborate that it just makes me see God as more grand than I ever realized. Natural selection and adaptation are straightforward and they can be observed in dogs for example, but the exact mechanisms responsible for the ongoing move toward greater complexity is not fully understood yet. Although gene mutation has been observed.

    I don't see evolution as completely random. If it was completely random then why is it moving toward greater complexity?


    I trying to understand it too.

    I look at everything around me and I see change or creation taking place and all the fossils going back 3 billion years support the idea of a general move toward more complexity. Even the universe itself is expanding at an ever increasing rate. I don't see any evidence that the process of creation ever stopped.
     

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