Creepsters

Discussion in 'Dreadlocks' started by mandyland, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. Callie4Strings

    Callie4Strings Official Spokes Bitch

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    Oh My Head Hurts!!!!


    Its cool SE, I didn't need any explanations. I know you are harmless (or think so) Just be careful!!!
     
  2. Alex Kemp

    Alex Kemp Member

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    Crazy people! Sounds like i may have started my journey on the wrong forums, how come your new account isnt gettin banned?
     
  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    well to clarify.. i was supporting the idea at 1st, even contributed the 1srt 20 bucks to help get it started
    but then was talking to skip about it and saw his opoint that there was no reason to create a competing site when a few simple adjustments here like renaming the forum would accomplish so much more. skip knows his shit which is why this sites got such a huge number of members and 10 times that many lurkers.
    dt has just a small handful of ppl besides the ones who were banned.
    and it wasnt so much just the fact that they created the site but the way ppl were reacting (like calling mods and admins nazis, questioning bannings and so on, all things directly against the rules, not only that, but ban evasion (creatting new profiles to get around being banned" and stuff just to come hjere and pm or post threwsds advertising dt's site.
    they actively tried getting almost everyone who posted here to leave and go there.
    who remembers that lil 15 year old kid from there that came here just to 1st advertise that site then 2nd badmouthanyone here, especialy the mods.
    im not saying everyone desseeved banning..not saying that at all i loved alotta those ppl and miss em alot
    but many did seriusky overreacte..and react badly and if they just tried listening to the reasoning behind it it made perfect sence.
    why create a site that at best will struggle to keep as handful of members when we already have 1 thats massive and thriving has been here for many many years..and comes up the highest in search engines ( in most cases)

    (unfortunately sometimes it comes up highest when ya dont want it too..lol i dunno how many dangerouse threads ive seen in certain forums that i had to go warn em about, specificaly masterbation forum, therre was 1, "i wanna masterbate on webcam for you, i can prove im not an adult"
    and if u googled webcammasterbation guess what came up 1st
    and the dumbasses all put theyre msn addrethe thread

    sorry off track here..lol my point is.
    skip did an amazing job..when ppl name the threads right, they come up at the top of searches.
    no site just starting out could compete..and why should they try? he was willing to make any changedss we thouight wed need to get the message out there. and he did..changing the namr
    had me create that thread
    we can create a dreadlocks group if we want tiio and have much more control over the look and feel of the group homepage.
    he was working on many improvements to the site at the same time as all this, that were designed to do just what they wanted to do with dt.

    and when he tried explaining why he couldnt just let them do this (including fundraising here to statt a compertintg site) instead of acting reasonably thety went into overreacte mode started fighting him, acting like kids till it came to the point where skip had to monitor this forum 24 hours a day to control the piytbustrsts the negative attacks the skips a nazi posts and the pm's "this sitr sux theyre nazis come join dt.com"

    im not saying they were guiltng but overreacting and not being understanding abnd coperative.
    its a shame that it all came to that.
     
  4. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    things settled down here somewhat and skips got 400+ other forums to pay attention to
    many are much bigger pronblems then this..so basicly shes gone unnoticed
    all i hacve to say is she should not let her bf post on herr account again or she probly would be
    noone reported him when he did, but certainly could have

    but really theres far far far worse things to worry bout here
    theres an admitted rapist child molester and possible murderer here whos been hrere for years posting all sorts of sick shit
    theres been dstalkers and pervs and psychos of all sorts that are more important to keep an eye on.
    theres thousands and thousands of ppl here and yea some real creepsters.
    the dt thing wass just a headache for a couple weeks but not a magor problem..just some p;l causing probs when they shoulda been tslking bout solutions
    thats all
     
  5. Callie4Strings

    Callie4Strings Official Spokes Bitch

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    hummmmm and callie was over reacting to being careful of what you post in the sexy sexy thready
     
  6. mandyland

    mandyland Senior Member

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    so the root of all the drama surrounding SE and all you who dislike him was over the start up of a new site? It makes sense that Skip would ban those trying to convert members to another site...its just bussiness right? So you all are mad at SE because he backed out at the last minute and decided not to help in making the other site because he liked it here? That doesnt make sense.
     
  7. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    struggle for members? i wish there were fewer members on dlt, i cant keep up with evreryone. im pretty sure it has more regular posters than this dreadlocks forum.
    and we created it because we are friends and wanted somewhere to hang out. since we were all banned from here...

    lmfao. i dont think i have to explain why thats funny.

    read my words.
    we never wanted to compete and we still dont. we wernt even going to have a forum, we intended to bring more traffic to this site by reffering people.

    really? this site has pages of tutorials and articles and faqs about dreads? because thats what dlt has and thats all it was ever going to be. that was the plan. not to compete with hf, or replace it in any way. there would have been links to this forum to help bring traffic here.



    as for being banned, im rather surprised that im not already but i guess im under the radar for the time being. i dont care much, i mostly come here out of boredom.
     
  8. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    hahaha no.
    when did i say that?

    i will not speak for anyone else on our forum, i cant say who hates him and who doesnt or why.

    im really glad he stayed here to be skips butt buddy. i dont want him where i hang out and post personal shit.
    and its for completely different reasons which you probably dont care about and i wont outline here.
     
  9. mandyland

    mandyland Senior Member

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    What I wrote above is what I got from SE's blurp. I am curious why so many people are just absolutely appalled with SE. I dont understand. People like to come here and bitch about SE but nobody feels comfortable discussing the root of it all. What the hell happened??!!! Argh.
     
  10. Spookytheferret

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    thank you for explaining!:eek: i've been wondering why slang and everyone else had been banned for the past year :eek:
     
  11. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    yeas mandy id like to know the same, ive tried pm'ing ppl askimg why , not 1 would respond..they like to cause alotta rtrouble openly where everyone can see but ya try asking em to explain privately and they refuse to respond (well except 1 did, we had a nice long talk and it turned out he was reacting to rumors started by a mod, all surrounding this issue..i was extreemely hionnest with him like i usualy am with everyone and probly told him waty way more then he needed to hear and in the end decided to give me the benifit of doubt...havent heard a word from him since (unless this was the samje guy that is..lol)
    but doubt it, at least that 1 kept everything to private messages and never made up lies he just tiold me what hed heard and how he felt about it..which i understood i was sickened when i heard what this mod was saying.
    (if it was thye mod i was told it weas..i tried asking her but hgot no responce)

    i dont understand it..well i know some ogf em are always ion the attack attacking lotsa ppl i just dont put up with theyre shit much so things get lil outt a control..
    its really just a real small handful of ppl that caused the triuble, but they made up so much shit others start to believe it
    till it snowballs way outta contril andfd the lies get bigger and bigger all the time like ya saw here yesterday
    i mean nowthey completely left the realm of believability
    but i bet someone someday mightve read it and thought it was true..just cause it was written here

    itrs just to some the nets just a playground, they dont take anyone seriusly thety think they can say anything about anyone and it wont matter cause they dont really concider us real people (there was a thread about this in random thoughts bout a year back, only 1 out of 10 thought the ppl they talked to every day here were at all real, they thought mosrt were totaly up personalities so never took em seriusly as real people
    its that anonimity of the web where these ppl arent rerslly real to you that allows them to misbehave so badly.

    ive met a great number of ppl from this site in real life andprobly get more phone calls from forumers then anyone here
    and all the ppl that take the time to get to know me we get along great
    thats the thing with these random attackers..they are never someone who knows ya..nor would they ever take the chance to get to know ya..and wont respond if u try to get to know them..
    cause if thast ever happened, they couldnt play theyre lil game no more.

    i can only assume its a game to em anyway..how triolls hget theyre kicks, stirring up trouble
    the more they shock or upset ppl the funnier they think it is
    i dont understand it..but have seen it a ton.
    the hippies and the gasy forums typicaly get gthe most troll attacks

    like i said before..if u copied a paragraph and did an exact word search i bet it showed up on 1 of those troll forums that love to attack hipforums
    hf is 1 of the biggest most popular forums in the world
    tons of hate groups specificaly love to targert it.
    eithe hate groups or pro gun groups and others mambkla included oh and 1 ui think was just called lulz or something
    theres (trying to remember this) i think its called somethihg pasta..basicly these sites come up with these shocking or insulting scripts that u can cut n paste in forums edited for the specific forum then they repost the reactions to it
    pure boredom..stupidity..

    couple yeasrs ago this kid came heere..umm crudaware or something he was part of 1 of these gun nut groups..they forced him to troll the forums so hed fit inand be accepted.. but as soon as he got here and srtarted trolling he got a warmer welcome then he expected and me and a few otheres triesd talking to him tio find out why he did this shit..long story short..he stayed, he liked it here hated the assholes onthe gun group..pretty sure it wass that kid im thinking of anyways..lol was a long time ago
    hf is 1 of the biggest targets for these groups
    maybe partialy cause its 1 of the hardest to keep a troll going since generaly the mods reacte as fast as possible .

    oz..if tghat ip tracks back to a proxy..im guessing thats the case (or the premenmtioned pstcho)
    if it is some1 from herre hiding in a new profile tho id love to know who to set the record straight.
    i hope whoever it is tho really doesnt have a daughter cause if he/she does and i was that daughter id be fucking pissed my parent told lies about me just to spread lies bout someone else..thats sick..
    but ..i kinda think its a 14 year old bored kid..
    dont really care..
    ]its over why we still talking biout it
    well..its noy really over..the lies out there being spread..oh well the ppl thast know me wouldnt ever believe it..
    and a hell of alotta ppl know me

    love ya all
     
  12. amybird

    amybird Senior Member

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    This is all so bizarre.

    Well re the DT vs here stuff... surely there's plenty of room on the internet for sites providing good dreadlock information. The more the better, in fact. We're always going on about KB and DHHQ dominating search engine results, and easily fooling many with their good design and marketing. We need a greater number of well-presented sites explaining that dreadlocks absolutely don't need a bunch of products. Firstly, it will improve the chance of a search engine landing on something other than a company and secondly, when people are researching, if they find several professional-looking sites, not selling products, and all confirming similar views about dreadlocks, they are more likely to be convinced into not taking the dread-kit route. Surely?

    Forums aside - when I recently discovered Dreadlock Truth, I suddenly felt a little hopeless. I thought a) there's no way my site can compete with this and b) what's the point in me putting any more time and effort in if everything is here already? (I know it's all in the forums too, but not everyone is with it on the whole forum thing). Luckily I instantly realised I was thinking backwards, for the reasons I just stated above. I emailed Slang to say how nice it was to see another good-looking dread site in development.

    My site doesn't even make me money, in fact I'm making a loss, and a lot of time has gone into it. I just wanted to provide useful info for people. It's a shame I began via the dread-kit method, because now I wish I could have documented a productless journey. I'm still going to carry on and develop some really good in-depth sections about dreading methods and so on, with plenty of links to here and DT too, because I think the internet still has a big gap for it.

    It's not meant to be about money...
     
  13. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    exactly amy, thats the same idea slang had in mind. not everybody wants to or knows how to sift through forums for information, it has to be made readily available. the one time she asked for donations before she was banned (id hardly call it fund raising) it was to pay for the domain.
    and i completely agree, the internet needs more good, not for profit sites on the subject. and dlt isnt perfect either, we still have a lot of work to do. half the links dont go anywhere because we just dont have the content together yet.
    i think its really cool becuase its not just one person writing it. like each article is by a different person, and we can all edit them and suggest changes and every member can contribute something. i think it makes for a very objective, unbiased site.
     
  14. amybird

    amybird Senior Member

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    Yeah I really like the potential DT has, even though many pages are work-in-progress at the moment, I think it's going to be excellent :)
     
  15. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    yea i sgree amuy
    and when this was all going on i had long long long conversations with skip trying to explasin thosde points exactly
    i was on the verge of being banned right along with everyone trying to explain that logic
    but what really came down ti being the final straw was 2 things really
    1 was they were fundraising here in order to make it, and, advertising it here
    both unacceptible.
    then 2nd was tghe reactions.
    at 1st iot was just a couple bans
    not perma bansds, but i dont know for sure if a duration was specified
    they coulda been a weekend to a 10 day ban if things hadnt then gotten outta control.

    there was thread after thread after thread made about it
    many getting very abusive towards skip asnd mods
    as usual the term nazi was being tossed around by a buncha ppl just acting out throwing tantrums.
    it got so bad that the second skip would delete 3-4 abusive or advertising threads 3-4 more would pop up
    so..the perma banning began
    i believe at this point alotta bans were stiolo temporary unless they ban evaded meanning comming back under other names to stir up more trouble
    then they werere perma banned (frunning a site this ghuge is enough work withiut having to babysit the users too)
    so aftrer the 1st round of perma bans some came back and insreasd of postimg started mass pm's telling ppl to leavge here and go there because skips a nazi
    odviosly som,eone made skip aware of this so he checked other pm's to see if its true then banned the onessrnding

    all in all it became a huge massive headache for skip.
    who can blame him for manning ppl who were causing so much extra work for him
    for like a couple weeks he had to pay attebntion to this forum all day and night deleting thread after thread after thread.

    be happy he didnt close the forum like he did with randim thoughts and young hippies when they wrre acting up so bad (actuasly young hippies became whiners)

    all i can say is i sure wouldnt want skips job
    and if i did have it, i wouldnt put up with 1/2 the shit he puts up with.


    he creatted this awesome site for us all, that operates at a loss even with the subscribers he barely covers 1/2 the cost (and he has his book here too for free making no royalties on it aft all)
    all that and so many are so ungrateful..calling him nazis.. acting like they own the site and he should behave the way they say he should just because they want to be here and act all stupid.

    most of ya have no clue at all the amount of shit hes gotta deal with,,

    you have no idea how many actual creeps there are on here
    over the years ive helped get ..hmm 15-20 super creeps banned that were being really abusive or worse
    and theres still several here that are way way way beyond creepy, but cant be banned cause they techniicaly havent broken any rules.
    skips usualy overly fair
    theres some here im sure hed love to see banned or better yet jailed
    but hes bound by his own rules so cant do anything but cooperate with the law enforcment if theyre brought in to inverstigate.
    unfortunately with the 1 most dangerouse one the cops and fbi had been called dozens of times and they really got nowhere with the investigation..and hes still here (this was an admitted molester rapist who truied to kill a family, and nowe probably did (he hinted at wanting to cinfess his murder to his lover (who is his 15 year old cousin..who he hates and wants to kill, and im 90% sure was the 1st 1 he wanted to rape when he 1st posted here)
    he admito molesting his aunt, and her 3 month old daughter..and to raping someone too ..also hiding in a closet with a knofe just to see what it would feel like to murder a family..but he was luckily caught and chased out with as bat, but wasnt caufgt by the cops)

    wait i went way off subject herre lol too damn tired
    my point is there are ppl like him here
    there are all sorts of creepers lurking in the shasdoews
    ive had dozens of freinds point them out to me asking my help to deal with em.
    skips got sooo much work to do rounfd here to keep this place safe for all
    the last thing he needs ids ppl acting up calling him a nazi and making more work for him.

    im sorry so many were banned permenantly..but..i understand why they were
    i begged them to try behaving
    but just wasjnt gonna happen.



    goodnight
     
  16. chemigals

    chemigals They call me Chemi

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    amy i didnt know you had a site too, thats pretty cool! :)
     
  17. amybird

    amybird Senior Member

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    Oh your pic your pic! :D
     
  18. amybird

    amybird Senior Member

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    Oh post it big in the sexy thready! Pleeease :)
     
  19. Callie4Strings

    Callie4Strings Official Spokes Bitch

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    So SE is being accused of being a pedophile from spies of another site???? Sounds all a little goofy and like something is not being told.
     
  20. phil316k

    phil316k Banned

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    bah the whole argument is stupid, im a member of both sites, and use both for advice. Im more familiar with this one though, but i still pop into each one daily
     
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