but crying makes guys less manly? i know you said "except for serious stuff" but youre just kinda being very final and judgemental in your statement of "men dont cry". they do dude, they do. men you could only dream of being cry. and you will cry, many more times in your life. at least i hope you do. it would be very cruel if you didn't crying is beautiful and natural, dont be a douchebag and buy into the cultural macho bullshit. a real man knows hes a real man and when he cries, he cries as openly as when he laughs. all life on the planet cries, in whatever way it can. its just another function, like breathing, laughing, loving, thinking . . . just do it. just cry. its what you were built to do.
Nope It comes naturally for me, instead of my feelings controlling me, It's like I am superior over my feelings, its the greatest feeling I love being in control.
Lol. I just don't like feeling sad. Why would I want to feel like that I train myself to always be happy. Think about it, when you see a man cry, you just feel like oh jeez, or it may seem like something REALLY bad happened. When you see girls or children cry, its just like oh ok its natural they are just sad and expressing sadness, and may try to make them feel better depending on who it is.
I respect your way of managing emotions but crying is a release for most and holding onto the tears just makes some a tense mess around every one else. Men hug kiss and cry more in other countries, I don't know what happened in America. I personally don't like the macho thing, it can be very isolating.
Oh, have you learned that in your experience? And not being macho doesn't necessarily lend itself to being a wuss.
Repression is just a loan on having control. Eventually you lose that battle. If you truly had superiority over your feelings, you would realize that there is nothing "unmanly" (whatever that means) about crying, and that it is a natural emotional response to a stressful situation, whether that situation be induced by sorrow, anger, empathy,or intense joy.
You bet. There is no form of depravity that I am unfamiliar with. And you are right it doesn't necessarily, but I said can, or may.
This, there's a difference between controlling your emotions and repressing your emotions. How society teaches men to express all emotions from sadness to joy is terrible and creating so many problems.
Hahaha you guys say I have "repression" I think I just have full control because if I had the repression I would be subconsciously feel sad and I know my brain and thats definately not the case. I went through a bunch of gnarly and hard and sad things in life and I realized that the more I let it get to me the more I lose.
^^ Yeah man, you may as well. Some people can handle their emotions on the spot and stay generally positive.
I don't mean to pick apart your posts, but.. All that points to you not wanting to cry because you have learned from society that it is an action that is not congruent with "being a man", so you avoid it unnaturally in order to fit into a stereotype. Calling it as a "pussy" thing to do, and attributing it to girls and gays, means you are trying to feminize the act of crying, which is another product of societal conditioning. It's like, text book repression lol. Who knows, I could be wrong, just saying though.
It would not appear to him as repression. That is the insidious thing about the cult, promised salvation from people we trust, we are delivered instead into neurosis as we seek compliance instead of understanding.
No, you're not wrong, this is the point I was getting at too, this isn't controlling, this is repressing. You obviously have emotions that want to come out but you find it too girly to do so. Some people are in fact very unemotional, and things both good and bad just don't sway them much. You're however doing what most other men do, being as unemotional as possible because it's the "manly" thing to do
Aaaah yes, social conditioning. Doesn't matter from which pulpit it comes, it still makes me wanna ball my eyes out.
So basically not giving into your emotions because you're too pussy to do so? Experiencing unfiltered emotions and making your way through them is strength. This is what I try to do and I feel like I have control. Control is subjective though. My control could be different than yours. Maybe if you were to experience an emotion you don't like you'd find yourself with no way out. I don't cry often. I cry when extremely nostalgic and the tides are changing, and even they are beautiful tears. Much the same thing I can experience while tripping.
i haven't cried in a really long time but its not because i think its a pussy thing to do, i just don't cry. i've actually had times where i've just wanted to burst into tears but it just doesn't happen i don't know why.
Patriarchy maybe but there are some people who just really don't cry. Like their parents can die and they'd be so depressed they're sitting in a room surrounded by empty vodka bottles and they still won't cry.
if you were really in full control, it wouldn't feel gay to cry. it would feel natural. then you wouldn't have to hide from a normal thing.