damned fluoride again!

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Lady of the Freaks, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Yes I did check it as best I could.
    Not every single detail within the links because some of it was superfelous.

    I only cut and pasted the information that I thought relevant and I had actually read through thoroughly and considered.
    Rather than "Oh, That looks good".
    I gave the info that my council/water authority would have evaluated and used to determine their acceptance of flouridation and determining the quality of the water being produced.

    Institute for Environment and Health
    Dr Paul Harrison: http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/health/abouttheschool/people/page8113.jsp
    Independent Drinking Water Inspectorate (who works as
    the Government’s watchdog).
    Severn Trent Water.

    You are quite welcome to scrutinise them yourself.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    i see your dr. harrison published a paper on the adverse effects on the reproductive systems of animals and humans associated with environmental chemical exposure. since that's an area of interest to him, why don't you try sending him these recent studies on the adverse effects of fluoride on the reproductive system and see what he has to say?

    Reddy PS, et al. (2007). Suppression of male reproduction in rats after exposure to sodium fluoride during early stages of development. Naturwissenschaften 94(7):607-11.

    Dvorakova-Hortová K, et al. (2007). The influence of fluorides on mouse sperm capacitation. Animal Reproductive Science Aug 6; [Epub ahead of print]

    Jiang CX, et al. (2005). [Relationship between spermatogenic cell apoptosis and serum estradiol level in rats exposed to fluoride]. Wei Sheng Yan Jiu. 34:32-4.

    Ortiz-Perez D, et al. (2003). Fluoride-induced disruption of reproductive hormones in men. Environmental Research 93:20-30.
     
  3. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Good idea. Done. I'll post any response I receive.
     
  4. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    cool. :)
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Do you think we have turned a corner here? I dope so. See I'm not so bad am I. lol.
     
  6. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    you dope so? lol :tongue:
     
  7. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    :rolleyes: It is an EU directive to shorten sentences.
    I meant I do hope so.
    I'll leave my contractions to those that, erm, understand it. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    watch out someone will think you're revealing things unintentionally via freudian slip. ;)
     
  9. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    :D Erm, I say no more.
     
  10. odon

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    I regret that I shall be out of the office until Tuesday 30 September. Please note that I will be leaving Cranfield University on 1 October 2008 to become a freelance consultant. Although I will continue to have links with IEH, any messages after this date regarding the business of IEH or the university should be directed to Philp Holmes at p.holmes@cranfield.ac.uk (tel. 01234 758508). Other messages should be sent to me at paul@ptch.co.uk.
    Thanks!
    Paul


    *tries again*
     
  11. invertedgothicbunny

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    I've got annother natural thing that might
    help "charcoal" it removes poisons from the
    body but you have to take several table spoons
    full to do anything but like weed it has no leathal
    dose so you could take it by the cup full if need be.
     
  12. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Well, he sent me an email saying he no longer responds to emails on this subject. Shame.
     
  13. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    thanks for the suggestion, but charcoal doesn't have much impact on fluoride. once it gets into your body, being a highly negatively charged ion, it is attracted to positively charged metal ions...like magnesium. that's why it's so destructive to the human body. the negative fluoride ion jumps readily to more positively charged ions, abandoning weaker bonds.
     
  14. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    sigh...why am i not surprised? :rolleyes:

    seems a bit irresponsible to make a decision which has long term impacts on the health of so many people, but yet not be willing to answer questions about that decision.

    how about sending them to your water utility? i don't think they could get away with ignoring you.
     
  15. odon

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    I think it was bad timing, really bad timing.
    If I had sent him an email 6 months ago, I think he would be pleased to have answered.
    He seemed like a personable person from the limited contact I had (Ok, he said: Kind Regards, thats it :rolleyes:).
    He just has left the University.
    His succesor is not going to respond in the same way as he would.
    So, I did not send him the email instead.

    This is my last day at IEH and I am sorry I cannot help you.

    Kind regards

    Paul Harrison

    **********************************************************************************
    Dr Paul T C Harrison BSc, PhD, Grad Cert Ed, CBiol, FIBiol, FRSA, FBTS
    Director
    Institute of Environment and Health
    Room F4, Building 63
    Cranfield Health
    Cranfield University
    Cranfield
    Bedfordshire MK43 0AL
    UK



    "Thank you for your enquiry, this has been passed onto the relevant department to action. We will respond to you within the next 10 working days."
     
  16. invertedgothicbunny

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    What your saying explains why vitamin C works
    so well which means any mega dose of any
    antioxident should help. That being said you
    could add tea to your bath water as an anodote
    to the flouride.
     
  17. Lady of the Freaks

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    yes, vitamin C and other antioxidants do help. what they don't do however is entirely detoxify the fluoride. nothing can do that. at best people can excrete 50% of the fluoride that enters their body. the rest stays and does its damage.

    oh, and tea is high in fluoride. i had to give that up long ago.
     
  18. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    wow, that's shitty freak... I never realized all the effects floride had!~ I thought I didnt mind it. :(
     
  19. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    well, watch out...it can start making you sick at any time. you live in winnepeg right? winnepeg is fluoridated. :(
     
  20. invertedgothicbunny

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    WTF tea has fluoride too holy cow.
     

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