Debit Card Hacked

Discussion in 'Computers and The Internet' started by Aerianne, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    So I should have said Never scan your system?
     
  2. Aerianne

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    The malware program has been running for 2 hours and 15 minutes. It's in the heuristic scan now.
     
  3. AceK

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    no, that's not a bad idea. but some things could possibly go undetected, some can raise false positives as well. having an anti-malware program isn't a good reason to not be careful about the sources of software. its something that can help in an unfortunate scenario but i've heard of people getting numerous trojans and stuff every other week and they think that's okay because their anti-virus software will take care of it. it's not okay.

    i also hate how slow some antivirus programs can make computers that run it, it's almost like it emulates the effects of having malware ... without actually having it ;) Norton seems to be the worst. My dad insists on running it on his computers, and paying the yearly license cost even though there's better programs that can be had for free.

    i think the only way to be 100% confident that your system isn't owned is to run it with networking disabled, possibly inside of a safe so nobody can sneak in while your gone and hack your shit. using a full disk encryption layer beneath the filesystem would help incase they got past the safe, but the NSA would bring a tank of liquid nitrogen to do a cold boot attack (where they cool the memory to sub-zero so that the data persists long enough to stick it in another machine and dump the memory to disk to examine forensically), and they'd break into that safe and lock it back without it being obvious at all. in fact, they're probably so sneaky that they could do it right in front of you without you even noticing ;).
     
  4. Aerianne

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    Wow. SMH
     
  5. Aerianne

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    Malwarebytes found 69 PUPs that I got rid of.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

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    That doesn't mean it's "clean" but it could be a start... and PUP is a "Potentially Unwanted Program"... Hopefully you didn't want any of them.


    Try the other one I mentioned... It came recommended to me that scanning with both, one right after the other, can catch some of the tricky ones. Recommendation came from a guy that does this for a living.
     
  7. Aerianne

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    Yes, I know and there is an option to restore anything I want.
     
  8. Aerianne

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    Well, we have the replacement debit cards and the charges were credited.

    Crossing my fingers this never happens again.
     
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  9. thedope

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    reputable bank?
     
  10. Aerianne

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    What's your question, Dope?
     
  11. AceK

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    could have been phishing, or some payment system that a merchant you bought from happened to have used was compromised, or the merchant themselves' security was compromised and someone got a lot of CC #s.
     
  12. Aerianne

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    Well, it's Visa's and Walmart's problem now.

    Whew!
     
  13. AceK

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    I got a new bank card recently. A lot of bank info got compromised recently, banks are aware of it.
     
  14. Aerianne

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    Technology....sometimes they need to rethink things.
     
  15. AceK

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    the same people who break system are the same people that help create them ...

    think about you were a software engineer working for some huge company like paypal or some other widely used payment, you would likely know that system inside and out and probably know about a few theoretical weaknesses so you have to work on a fix, but there's plenty of money to be had by selling the details of such weaknesses to criminals before the patch is released.
     
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  16. Aerianne

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    I got a letter today from the on-line company I buy my vape supplies from. Their system was hacked, and I had ordered from them, during the time that I had the fraudulent charges.
     
  17. Tyrsonswood

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    Shouldn't they have told you sooner?
     
  18. Aerianne

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    "Although we have no evidence confirming that illegal use of any personal information has occurred or that any material harm will result to any customer as a result of this incident, some customers have reported fraudulent charges on their payment cards during the period noted."

    Then they go on to tell you about how to protect your credit and how to report suspicious activity, etc.
     
  19. drumminmama

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    My card has been duplicated, as in printed into a card by somebody, twice in five years.
    Both at times I was driving, and getting gasoline.

    Both times chase made it right. So I stayed with them. (I do have additional, cooperative accounts elsewhere. This is my household account)

    I have alerts set up for any charge over a small amount. Basically, I don't get email if I pay for an hr of parking, but anything more shows.

    Aeri, don't worry about the square or similar device the salon uses. CC companies are so ridiculous with equipment that scanners are the future of small business. I use one for my massage business. I prefer it to PayPal because I pay a tiny bit less in fees. They aren't much now, bit when I go fully independent, they'd add up to a significant amount.
    If I was willing to link PayPal to my bank, I'd get a better rate and use their scanner.
     
  20. AceK

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    yeah, they can install a skimmer in place of the normal card reader, then clone your card. people dont notice because sometimes its not that obvious, or people dont know what the machine looked like before. people are often in a hurry too and dont closely scrutinize it. it can also happen if you pay in a store and the cashier scans your card behind the counter, they could have a handheld reader under the counter and do it that way.
     
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