Definitions of a Hippie!

Hi Dudley,
Gee--it sure has been quiet over here--this was a surprise. I honor and respect your feelings..however--those 'things' like long-hair and colorful clothing--were a badge-"a freak flag'..so much better than a tie, a suit and brown shoes. More comfortable, more natural--tribal--and real--dressing and looking like we felt--like we felt inside...felt inside..and still do.
Misconceptions?--I don't think so--I believe the millions who do have long-hair, wear colorful clothing (like butterfly's) and question authority..still belong to a minority in this country..and we desire to be Free and Free-Spirited....and it is nice to identify one of our tribe out of all the suits and cars and cell-phones surgically afixed to their ears and cheeks.

I suppose that is your perception though..cool...

I feel that to be a little more gentle you could have said:

My definition of a hippie is:
"Respect for the Earth and all that dwell on it. Mostly it's a respect for yourself. Allowing yourself to be who you are. Search the inner you, deep inside your heart, the answers are there if you just listen. You just might be suprised what you might find. Two paths diverge in a woods, I take the path less traveled and that made all the difference, it's up to you to chose."

PeaceZenHugs
LionHeart

Are You Experienced
by Jimi Hendrix

If you can just get your mind together
uh-then come on across to me
We'll hold hands and then we'll
watch the sunrise
from the bottom of the sea
But first, are you experienced?
Uh-have you ever been experienced-uh?
Well, I have

(Well) I know, I know, you'll probably scream and cry
that your little world won't let you go
But who in your measly little world, (-uh)
are you tryin' to prove to that you're
made out of gold and-uh, can't be sold
So-uh, are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced? (-uh)
Well, I have
Uh, let me prove it to you,
yeah

Trumpets and violins I can-uh, hear in the distance
I think they're callin' our name
Maybe now you can't hear them,
but you will, ha-ha, if you just
take hold of my hand
Ohhh, but are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?

Not necessarily stoned, but
beautiful.

 

DDR, that was a good answer.

 

Wiki's take:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.


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Hippie (or sometimes "hippy") is a term originally used to describe some of the rebellious youth of the 1960s and 1970s. The word, "hippie" was coined by the late San Francisco Chronicle columnist Herb Caen. Though not a cohesive cultural movement with manifestos and leaders, some hippies expressed their desire for change with communal or nomadic lifestyles, by renouncing corporate nationalism and the Vietnam War, by embracing aspects of non-traditional religious cultures, and with criticism of Western middle class values.
Such criticism included the views that the government was paternalistic, corporate industry was greedy and domineering, traditional morals were askew, and war was inhumane. The structures and institutions they rejected came to be called The Establishment.
The term "hippie" has also been used in a derogatory sense, to describe long-haired unkempt drug users, who by Beat standards was someone that was not "Hip" or "aware" or "clever" enough to really be "hip". Conservatives of the time and today used the term "hippie" as an insult towards young liberals and progressives.
"Hippies" of the time were interested in "tuning in to their inner minds" (with or without drugs, mystic meditation) and improving mainstream society. This influence was sometimes from far eastern metaphysical and religious practices that were done mostly by monks and aboriginal shaman in the past. The inclusion of far eastern religious practice in religious circles of the 1970s became a New Age movement for Mystics and "Spiritual Seekers," as well as a joke for hipster comedians.

Photo-by Brother Yama

 

Lionheart, I beg to differ with you (or the dictionaries). The first person who is usually credited with coining the term "hippie" was Herb Caen, a long-time columnist for The San Francisco Examiner. He had witnessed the Beat Scene ten years previously (Whalen, Ferlinghetti, Kerouac, Ginsburg, Cassidy, etc.) and found the new generation lacking in intellectual heft--- in other words, a dimunitive of "hip" : "hippie".


Ah, from my experience, he was right. The Beats (and I arrived on the scene in 1966 in Greenwich Village) were into art, literature, poetry, opera and classical music (gasp!), jazz, rock-- hell, anything that required talent. So, I guess I was spoiled. We actually had intellectual conversations while we got high (mostly pot).

I drove to S.F., stayed there over 6 months, and can't recall ONE intelligent conversation among the dozens of people I met. It was: "Man! Ain't this good weed!"; "Fucking pigs hassled this dude, man!"; "Wow! I really got ripped on that acid, dude!"; "Got any spare change, brother? I'm busted flat!"; "Shit, man, I tripped on Janis, man, but I was too stoned to see her, dude. But, it sounded groovy, man!"

Yeah, man, WHAT A BRING-DOWN!

I had fun in S.F. Got fucked a lot, got the clap twice, enjoyed the weather, the architecture, the hills, the fogs and the late-night foghorns, the beautiful cool sunshine, the cable-cars and real Chinese food in a real Chinatown.

But, I was sure glad when I got back to 25 Bleecker in Greenwich Village and could have an intelligent conversation!

New definition of "hippie" in The THUDLY NEVER-MISS DICTIONARY:

"Hippie":Noun. Sometimes an adjective.

1. A naive teenager in the 60's who rebelled against the status quo and their parent's perceived conformity, only to end up conforming to their peers agreed-upon conformity.

2.A sheep.

3. One who experimented with drugs; their experiments usually concluded before they passed out in strange houses with unknown people, with the experimenter saying, "Wow!"; "Groovy!"; "Out-a-sight!". The next day they couldn't remember if God had seen them or if they had seen God or if it was all just a misunderstanding , like when you see some one on a bus and you think "Jeez, I know her!" and then when the bus stops you both get off together and you say, " Don't I know you from somewhere?", and she says, shrilly, "Get away from me you pervert--I'll call the cops!"

4.Someone who believes in "Peace and Love" against all contrary evidence that these two terms are either largely illusionary or mutually contradictive.Therefore,bringing us full-circle: a naivete.

 

Lionheart-- Somehow our posts got crossed-- you knew about Herb Caen. When I wrote my post, I hadn't read your post or else I was drunk: VODKA TIME! (even though it took me 5 days to recover from the last one).


I stand my everything else, though.

 

Caen was the mentioned at the start of the Wiki article:

"Hippie (or sometimes "hippy") is a term originally used to describe some of the rebellious youth of the 1960s and 1970s. The word, "hippie" was coined by the late San Francisco Chronicle columnist Herb Caen. Though not a cohesive cultural movement with manifestos and leaders, some hippies expressed their desire for change with communal or nomadic lifestyles, by renouncing corporate nationalism and the Vietnam War, by embracing aspects of non-traditional religious cultures, and with criticism of Western middle class values."

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Wiki is a damn good connected source. HOWEVER, I was there.


"Nuff said?

 

Wiki mentions the negative connations also. It's funny how one brand of hippie has negative names for the other flavors it doesn't like.

"On the East coast of the U.S., in Greenwich Village, young counterculture advocates were called, and referred to themselves as "hips". To be "hip" meant at that time, "to be in the know". Young disaffected youth from the suburbs of New York City flocked to the Village in their oldest clothes, to fit into the counterculture movement, the coffee houses, etc. Radio station WBAI was the first media outlet to use the term "hippie" to describe the poorly-dressed middle class youths as a pejorative term originally meaning "hip wannabes"."

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Yes, it is a partial Wiki's take; However, I did add some of my own insight. That’s the way I feel and it is a good definition.

 

Hi folks,
Definitions-wow--It feels weird to be defined huh?
Great thoughts and experiences--I guess it really gets down to "who you hung with" where you went and what you did...really!!!! My experiences seem to be different..the only poorly dressed (???) dirty people I ran across were Speed Freaks...their homes smelled like cat spray, meth and baby diapers. It was disgusting. I avoided them! Junkies were almost as bad. Pot heads always had nice clean--hippie pads--the one's I knew anyway.

There is nothing better in my world than a barefoot 'earth mama' smelling like patchouli and lavender taking me by the hand and leading me to a hotspring...and talking to and getting high (or not) with a dozen long-hairs and their children in the middle of Nature..nothing better this lifetime- so far, other then making love to a 'sister" on cool moss in the forest.

Haight Ashbury was the 'bus terminal' for the Revolution and so much GOOD came out of those minds and hearts that are still vibrating today--will tomorrow and will continue when we transition on.

It's what your intention was..stop the war, do drugs, listen to music/play music, find a tribe or family closer then your birth one, do art and film, get out of the CITY and get close to nature, write poetry, make love (Free Love), dance, sing, drum, get comfortable with your own body and go naked, raise your consciousness, celebrate your life (Woodstock)....and this all happened for thousands of us in Phoenix..not just Haight Ashbury..Greenwich Village too-the East Village, the Bronx, Flushing, Brooklyn and better yet--upstate!!! Every city and village in this country..

How can you gauge a movement or a term "Hippie" by just one city or one experience? Have you ever been to a concert you waited for for months and they played lousy and it sucked? Did you keep buying their music or avoid them?

Intellect in Greenwich Village?--sure I agree--and I know there was intellect in San Francisco--we had to seek it out (Monday Night Class-with Steve Gaskin-Ram Dass-City Lights Bookstore-the Beat Poets-Authors and Artists-Lots of Nobel Prize winners there--the list goes on and on)..did you go to Berkely? Santa Cruz? Mendocino? California was cookin and grooving in the 60s...and so was New York...Pittsburg, Chicago, Cleveland, Austin (where I spent the early part of the 70s), Boston, Phoenix, Santa Fe, Boulder and Denver, Amsterdam, London, Glasgow, all of Vermont, Montreal, Seattle, Miami..etc.etc. where does everyone think that those 500,000 at Woodstock came from?..San Francisco? NOT...

Hippies--I love being one...I even have learned to deal with the 'stink eye' from Americans for 35 years because I have long hair, a beard, sandals and sometimes an earing..or beads or braided hair...

Rebellious--fuck yeah--I rebelled against the draft in 1969--LBJ invited me to join his war..no way!! I was clear enough to know I didn't necessarily want to go over and kill randomly people that did not threaten my family, my friends or my favorite swimming hole. What for? Then I learned, thanks to Abbie Hoffman, that the Pentagon and McNamara were secretly testing out new war technology (Gulf War-Afghanistan) and also seeing whether a 'land war' could be fought and won against the oriental/asian brothers and sisters. Rebellious? against the lies, deceptions-repressions-the 'white mans " history books and John Wayne films..Leave it to Beaver..and 'Let's Make a Deal"--yep. War is cool, go fight for your corporations. Have ya talked to a Nam Vet recently? Gee half the soldiers in Nam were on acid or pot.
Rebellious? Sheep? who's actually rebelling against the 6 year civil rights and environmental slaughter by the Republicans?...where's the Abbie's..where's the heart of this county--in the Hippie Heart that's where!! We spilled blood and risked much to bring about change and raise the consciousness..so why squabble or argue about the word "Hippie"...it's a name I am proud to be identified with..damn proud.
Where did the word Hippie cme from? More 'white man's history'...the sons and daughters of the Beat Generation..the 'hipsters'--or does it go back further.
Time to get out of the sandbox folks..and stop insulting instead of supporting...open minds are like parachutes (they only work when opened)...you might just say something that will hurt someone...is that really what you intend to do?--hurt other people?..being on a "HIPPIE' Forum doesn't mean insulting us is creative or right, just ignorant..if you think we are sheep--you should join a Marquis de Sade or Fetish Forum"-ROFL! but definitely join another Forum. We are too sensitive and busy to spend our time defending ourselves against remarks that hurt.We've been doing it all our lives--and we are weary--but I respect your right to have your opinions...Yeah! Love Us or Leave Us! hey that's good-LOL!

By the way 'Thudly' do you mix orange juice or V8 with your vodka? It helps to keep the Vit C and B in your body that the alcohol is sucking out...fresh squeezed is best--if you can get them!!

I'm Loving You Brothers and Sisters
Gotta Go-got some fine looking artichokes sitting over there ready to be steamed.
Lionheart
Under Arizona Skies

Hip: The History is the story of an American obsession. Derived from the Wolof word hepi or hipi ("to see," or "to open one's eyes"), which came to America with West African Slaves, hip is the dance between black and white -- or insider and outsider -- that gives America its unique flavor and rhythm. It has created fortunes, destroyed lives and shaped the way millions of us talk, dress, dance, make love or see ourselves in the mirror. Everyone knows what hip is.

Wolof history probably dates to about the 12th or 13th century. Wolof forefathers migrated west to the coast from Mali following the defeat of the Empire of the Ghana in the 11th century. Oral family histories indicate that at least some of the first settlers in the area were of Fulbe origin. Much Wolof history has been preserved in oral praise songs which are recited by griots ("professional praise singers"). Portuguese traveler accounts from the 15th century indicate an organized Wolof presence in what is still their homelands. Europeans established a fort on Goree Island off the coast of modern day Dakar, which served as one of the primary points of departure for slaving vessels bound for the Americas. Since European contact Wolof history has undergone numerous conquests and revolts as competing rulers challenged one another for kingship.
http://www.bcconline.org/wolof/Culture.htm

Here's a Hippie rebelling in India...love it. That's gotta hurt though--LOL!

 

I read somewhre one definittion for a hippy: "sick american youth, that stands for love and peace"

 

I admire those in this forum involved or interested in the hippie movement. I certainly agree that the essay above is a solid piece of work - well researched and articulate. I find it fascinating, endearing even, that people today would still be interested in the most recent period it describes. That said, from my perspective - and I really emphasize that phrase - the 1960s and 1970s hippie era is best described by the word heartbreak. I was a kid when that era began and a late teen when it ended and I saw something go from a state of honor and decency and, I think, genuine love to one of the great cultural swindles of all time. I say that with sadness, not smugness or self-righteousness. In its political aspects, for example, it focused intensely on a hatred of Richard Nixon but in so doing its conduct made it a doppleganger for Nixon's lying and fraudulence. Once that began, the famous phrase "trust no one under 30" rapidly morphed into "trust no one" if you wanted to survive. Again, said with sadness, not smugness. And, to emphasize, just my perspective.
Shawmutt

 

dah, dare iz knoh definition.

 

I take my vodka straight, with a beer or ice-water chaser. Orange juice and tomato juice give me heart-burn. I average a pint a day, sometimes more; sometimes way more. It's good for me!


P.S. I do take my vitamins, though. Like old Lindy used to say, "There's a pork-chop in every bottle!" He's dead now, died a drunkard's death: alone, no family, unmourned, but he sure as hell ate his share of the hog!

 

i'm a hippy. the only problem is hardly anyoine else is, in an age full of CHAVs

 

Nice english talk word original name (PsyGrunge)

Everyway anyway, Noone can afford not to be able 2 be defined az normal, because,
noone knows shit about hip, who or what way iz up.
shit iz alwayz changin an hip iz how high riteon One can B.
believe me.

 

lionheart you are awome mad respect i love the way you think just like me we need more people in the world like us

 

hippie is just another way to be labeled and subject to being judged. who cares what they classify you as.

 

Ih class if Ih U az an ass.