Department of Homeland Security Opened My Package

JWH isn't scheduled nor is it an analogue of marijuana. It's completely legal to import.

 

Damn, that shouldn't even be an issue. I have an order placed with this vendor and I wish that they were more secure in their shipping. I msy have to reconsider my vendor. They seemed professional, but who knows?

 

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No.

The OP is or was concerned, yes. Everybody else is saying: "Don't worry about it."

 

Meph would be more risky as it is an analog and quickly gathering international attention. It is still unlikely you will be prosecuted for it, and as a minor even if you are it will be a minimal punishment most likely, but I would take much more precautions getting meph than I would jwh-018.

 

They will wait for the small fish to grow into a big fish that may lead em to a whale to make headlines. You will be the example or the bread crumbs leading back to you source. They are patient and want to make headlines to fund this war.


Not just any type of person orders these chemicals. They know that and will put you on a list to watch.

Good luck and don't worry, right?

 

The vendors security is solely his responsibility, not his customers. A good vendor assumes everyone he works with is LE trying to bust him. You make a good point though about them being patient etc. They are not going to get you for jwh-018: it is legal and not an analog. But ODB is quite right in saying only certain types of people get this sort of shit. I have talked to a *lot* of people who wish they were more secure before they got more involved with the scene. This time it was JWH-018, next time maybe an analog which is iffy on how safe you will be if it is intercepted, or a scheduled and you are fucked. Your address you got shit to is quite possibly flagged at this point. Small time mistakes lead to big time busts if that line is ever crossed, and many people have gotten busted years later from naive mistakes. For example, you posted publicly here that you had a pack of jwh-018 intercepted, there is a record of that somewhere. You probably are not connecting to hip forums with Tor so your IP address is on record. Let's say in two years you are on a private forum with the same screen name ordering sketchy shit. LE simply find your name on HF, get your IP, get your post admitting you had JWH seized and check records, start inspecting all mail to your address and you get popped with a sketchy pack. This is a very realistic scenario.

There are some vendors I know who deal exclusively with 100% legal shit where they live and they are still constantly being harassed by LE (all packs inspected and tested with delays, computers seized, etc... although no criminal charges are ever filed). It's cuz LE knows if they are fucking with legal powders they are most likely fucking with other shit too. That's why I don't get vendors who are huge and public, even if they are working with straight up legals they are just begging LE to harass the fuck out of them, and they put *everyone* they work with at risk by being so careless. IMO vendors like this are not worthy of customers (not saying the vendor you got this jwh from is like that, but if it is who I suspect then they are extremely careless).

 

If my name gets put on a list am I pretty much fucked ordering anything outside of the US? like will everything i order get searched?

 

Don't worry about it, all they were doing was confirming it was not something scheduled and labeled as JWH-18. I know someone who orders large quantities of RCs (sometimes in the 500g-1kg range) and sometimes it is held by health / customs for a little while but then always sent through.

 

Customs flags addresses and address and name combinations - not just names. If you get a customs love letter, the best solution is to not ship something to that address again. They couldn't track names, there are so many common names.

An ideal solution is to find a quasi-post office box. Many office stores will offer a service where they accept mail / packages for you. Find one that doesn't ask questions.

 

You know - that's not a bad idea at all. But how do I get a post office box with a fake name? As far as I know most post office box places require a valid state ID in order to get a post office box. So, wouldn't I have to have the ID with the fake name on it first, before I get the fake post office box?

 

Holy shit you would almost need like an ID thats not real! this is a breakthrough!!!!!!

 

I agree!!!! These guys fucked up big time using such a sketchy vendor.

 

If you are in this business then you should play it like chess.

Some things are disposable for the greater good. Like addresses and names. Get many if you plan to do tests.

 

Back in the day when this vendor first became available and had ems shipping as an option I had an order of two see eye opened all the way up but I still got it but it's obvious they saw it. That was months ago and I haven't had any issues since but I just placed a fifty g meph order so I hope all turns out well...

 

Do you think CP47497 would be risky at all? (I mean riskier than JWHs)

 

I guess it is much more of an analog than the JWHs, so it's definitely more risky, but I'm hoping someone will say it's still probably fine.....I'm a little nervous now. I would hate feel like I to have to keep my residence clean for a long period. That would be a pain in the neck.

 

They require more than a state id. I just set one up and they had a list of shit and I had to show them two of any of the things on the list. I showed em my drivers license and drivers insurance card

 

so, anyone else have a similar experience? someone should inquire on undrugged.

 

It depends where did it come from? I retired from law enforcement, it might have been a random search.