depression

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If you continue to define yourself in such narrow terms, then yes, it is all you have this afternoon.

"I am" is the origin of all assumptions.

 

I don't have a lot of control over these things.

Well, yeah. Any thought after I am seems to be an assumption. Are you saying that "I am" is an assumptiom?

 

It's your need for control that confines you, not its abscence.

"I am" is the original assumption.

Travis

 

Aha! Good one.



*munch munch munch*

 

True, but surely I'm not alone in this department Travis.

I don't follow. How can it be an assumption when it is undeniably true?

 

From now on when people won't do what I want, I'm going to threaten to sic radareyes on 'em.

 

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No, you're not. But then again, I'm not the one who has proclaimed that the only thing I have to rely upon this afternoon is self-deception.

Last spring, if I recall correctly, you thought that it was undeniably true that "the only thing between the lines is blank space".

In other words, it isn't.

Travis

 

What are you two talking about?

 

shush LL.. I think we're about to get to the good part. There may be a love scene...

 

Not only is "I am" an assumption; "I" is already an assumption.

Being ("am") is also an assumption; i.e., being could be nothing.

 

Hey, there's always tomorow.

How is it not undeniably true? Any attempt to prove that it isn't just serves to prove that it is.

 

I guess opening my popcorn would be too noisy then ... don't want to spoil the kissing.

 

There's never tomorrow. Tomorrow is a figment of your imagination.

It's not something that can be proven with the mind, Neo.

Travis

 

:hat:

 

I say it will end with one of them definitively proving the other one wrong in all ways for all time, world without end amen.

NOT????

 

this is gonna take ALOT more popcorn isn't it?

 

Neo and I have a bit of history and are just having a good-spirited debate. Any other interpretation of our dynamic has originated with the peanut gallery (which I dare say has some members more interested in vindication than objective observation -- you know who you are ), not with our intentions for pursuing interaction.

Travis

 

right, but that's what makes it fun.

Then I guess you are just swiming too deep for me to follow. the sense of being resonates soundly as truth, pure and simple, for me. Now, any additions to a pure state of being, I can't account for, I'm just talking about that which can't be seen.