disgusted with U.S. Marine media...

ok, I changed a part of the original post to how "some" think the slogan is. Because it's not necessarily how I "always" feel. Just at times when I'm angered by the things that are allowed. I realized I have made some mistakes in the past and always I try to correct to them. I personally believe as I have stated before there are some good soldiers and I will add heroes here that are in the military. But as I stated before and others have stated "not all" are good or heroes. Anyone in the military or has been in the military like I have would know this. I realize that this topic is a sensitive issue and I just want to make it a bit more peaceful, so let's just try to get along here. Sorry if I hit a sensitive spot with this issue. The fact is and something many might have a problem with is that the military just sat by and allowed some things to happen to the U.S. that should NEVER have been allowed. Yes there are a lot who go in and clean up the mess. I agree. My problem that disgusts me is that why publisize all this goodness when there is nowhere near enough being done on the homefront? And as far as my little joke at the end of my original post, it was just meant to be silly, not offensive. If it's offensive to many, I will honor it if people want me to take it off and I will post it somewhere else. Just remember, foreign AND domestic, and we have a great deal of unsettled domestic issues that need to be settled before we go invading any other country without proof of threat.

 

I find this thread in bad taste. Every American should support all the troops and show patriotism and American pride.

 

I think your going to end up being a cliché of the cliché you seem to be.
Calm down a bit and put the flag back in the cupboard

 

patriot: One who loves his country and zealously guards its welfare; esp., a defender of popular liberty.
Liberty: Freedom from oppression, tyranny, or the domination of a government not freely chosen.
oppression: To burden or keep down by harsh and unjust use of force or authority. 2.) To lie heavy upon physically or mentally.

Can you say that the U.S. seriously is in liberty or is patriotic? As far as I'm concerned POINTING out that the U.S. DOESN'T do this is an act of patriotism in itself. So bad taste I think is to not see what's really going on and NOT standing up to it. I support troops, I support pride, but not at a terrible cost, and certainly not for war. There is always a better scenario then blowing someone up and having innocent bystanders paralyzed in the act. Or children being burned so severely because the governments can't agree on much. Or continuing to build weapons of any sort of destruction for business. Why build more weapons when you can decommission them? I'm sorry, I'm just having a hard time understanding the point to all this? What does it really accomplish besides adding more fear and hate? So no, I don't support ALL the troops, I suport the one's who THINK they are doing what is right for protection, not the one's who just want to kill because what they are TOLD is right or because they have a death wish. And I know they are out there. That saddens me.

 

WELL ! That was a pure suck me off post orisin ( with a un-capatalised O )

My first post included the hope that opinions could be expressed with out personal attacks. As per the rules I agreed to when I signed in.
I see for some A R M Y types this is not considered.


Is it that some people just can't disagree with the opinion with out a personal attack?. Posts like the above, leads me to believe that the opinion must have had some merit to it, or the points would have been discussed. Since the person quoted above does not argue the point I guess he's without any intelligent opinion of his own. Only the opinions given by the A R M Y, and those are far from intelligent.

I agree.
:cheers2:

 

i find your blind, brainwashed stupidity in VERY bad taste, why? because its people like you, who dont stand up to the government, who let the US commit more crimes against the world. every "american" should take up arms, and engage in inssurection against the state. if the incompetent american people would think for them selves, and take a minute to realize, what kind of country the US is, there wouldnt be a US anymore. people like you stop promote wage slavery, and murder. not freedom and liberty....(you have no clue what those two words mean anyways)

 

Originally Posted by orison319
Quote:
Originally Posted by "omited".
I hope you are well, thank you for your service to us brother.
Peace


Im sorry I should of shown discipline and restrained myself more than to snap that way, later i kinda regreted it.. I just got a bug up my ass from seeing the same whinning, and better converstations can be held without pissin on armed forces and law enforcement... I kinda find it funny that he would call the Marines cause I picked on him,lol...(rp) humor..
I will not let it bother me.
Service, Dont mention it..

Thank you.
O,crb.

Dont try to raise my opinion anymore than its been raised.. Obviously you also want to pick and chose who is intelligent and who isnt..
You live without fear of your doors being kicked in at night, your father dragged out and beheaded, and maybe they rape your sister in front of you.. Your then forced to believe in what they believe in. Which is another subject. You hope in a truck and do nothing else but stupid killings of civilians, you raid stores and steal goods, you make ieds and plant them along the road for just anyone (not military convoys) to come across... Your a idiot to even try to get me started....

You dont have to worry about it child your always going to be safe in America... This will never happen here.



:leaving:

 

mykittyhasaboner< you make a valid point, but most people dont even have the power to push a pen...
I still say no matter how much the american citizen bitches the gov is going to do what it wants, Im in no way saying you shouldnt exercise your rights...BUT WHO DOES?

 

You know guys, there is a better way to go about this than calling each other names. Does it accomplish changing what has been done? Does it promote getting on the same page? Why can't we see each other's sides eye to eye? Go to www.thenausea.com war pics, docs, facts.

 

no matter how many "rights" we have (such as the right to overthrow the government) the american people are raised and trained not to exercise their rights. not to mention that the rights we have are plagued with technicalities that make rights worthless. for example, we have the right to protest and to displace the current administration if the constitution is violated. if we attempt to overthrow the government, the government will try and kill us! we have a right to freedom of the press. then why is the press dominated by bourgeois media? why does the press do nothing but promote the ruling class, and slanderize anything against it?

as The Instinct said, name calling will get us nowhere, but i cant stand but be in complete heated opposition to anyone who supports the united states. you constantly claim that you and your troops fight for freedom, your idea of freedom is severly skewed if you think freedom is the right to be forced to go to school, forced to make money, forced to work, and then die.

 

Who forces you to do such things? in the united states... pttf. are you are kidding me. you dont have to do a fucking thing Now if you lived in North Korea..theres forced human slaverly in China, or Cambodia.
Many others, Americans got it easy, even when it come to Prisons...
You can commit crimes here and still have arms... lol.
You must not get out of your part of the woods to much..

 

the state forces you to! its illegal if you do not attend school up to 16, you need to work to survive. were all forced to do this shit for survival, dont tell me that im doing all this capitalist wage slavery for my own good, thats ridiculous. this is not just in america, capitalism is everywhere. and no, i dont get out "my part of the woods" too much. (in fact the woods where i live was built over for theme parks and other conservative waste like resorts, and boring cities) because i lack those little green pieces of paper, which capitalist society so greatly fetishes over.

and another thing, why do you have to compare america to other countries to somehow make it seem better? china sucks just as much, its a state controlled capitalist economy (fascism, much like the US). north korea is backward ass ex USSR satellite state-whom the leaders probably wouldnt know the first thing about Marxism. and Cambodia is a fucking monarchy! just because these places are more overt about their exploitation of the working class, doesnt make the US any better.

 

Then you should move, To bad you cant find your place in the world, or lack the education or intelligence to get the green you need for your own theme park......
Sorry if your looking for a new argument on why the world is the way it is, you should take that up with the creator of all things, till then Ill serve him and my country with the best of my ability..
Leaves thread....

 

im planning on moving. "education" and intelligence are not requisites for making money, in fact they are usually quite far apart. and why would i want my own theme park? you must have misunderstood what i said, or have a stale sense of humor.

i dont look for arguments, nor do i enjoy them. im an anti theist, so i say fuck off to your god. "till then ill serve him and my country" -spoken like a true brainwashed american.

 

not Like Im gona pick a fight with you.....
But you either dont know me, trying to irritate me or neither. Since I grow DOPE you dope.. I might now just be serving my country what they deserve.. A Good buzz...
Read my profile Im retired.. And dont open threads of conflicting nature.
But Im sure this thread will get closed soon enough.. So get it out of your system while you can...
Good night....

 

If your attack is going too well, you're walking into an ambush."
- Infantry Journal

 

this threads not going to go anywhere. it is just becoming an argument between a realist and an idealist who thinks they are a realist. americans have no reason to pick up other’s shit. they have no reason to get into unneeded conflict. and yes i do agree with the person who stated that the soldiers were 'tricked' into service. but, MANY of them, not all, have no problem being there to fight for others 'freedom', like orison as he claims. i find it quite funny that they are just as brain-fucked as the rest of the citizens and they are the ones fighting. americans cannot survive in other countries with out guns, considering the rest of the world fucking HATES us. i cant see how the americans that are trapped in their bubbles feel that the rest of the world appreciates our work... oh yeah.. it’s because they are in a bubble.

and fuck you and your completely ignorant assumptions orison. you sound like a little 12 year old with your "wow, how can i listen to you when you only have 300 posts." "sitting in mommys basement" "you don't even start with capital letters" who gives a shit? is this the maturity and control they teach you in the force? as long as you understand him then why does it fucking matter?... yet you have no room to talk about bad grammar. Considering the fact that nobody could understand some of your posts with all the fragments and run-ons.

its a fucking forum post, not a college essay.
I also find it amusing that you just stated how the marines were pussies and you’re the ones that do the work… then go off saying everybody has freedom because guess who? the MARINES!
you piece of shit. I cannot wait till I’m out of this fucking country.

and it seems to be going way too well for the americans thus far.

 

Wow, I don't know what to almost say anymore. I started this hoping to give myself and some others a chance to vent about what they see that's wrong in the world. I hope that some can come together. I don't understand why this has to be so heated. I further don't understand why some just can't take a step back and look at situations instead of only seeing what they want to see. I am almost in agreement now that this thread will really go nowhere if no one wants to attempt to see eye to eye without arguing. I guess that's why the guy in my signature picture was harmed the way he was. Failure to communicate on the governments behalf, on all of our behalfs.

 

that would have been nice and that is the reason i even posted on this thread in the first place. but some people cannot take the criticism of their 'work'. oh well, what else could we have expected out of the people we are speaking of. (now i sound like a fascist). I'm done.

 

I will mail you a AIRLINE ticket... To wherever you want to go..
Money is not a problem...Just make sure its one of those countries that American citizens are hated in...