Divorce Horror Story

They are not the ones causing it necessarily, but they are the ones taking advantage of it and exploiting it.

 

They're hired.

How is that exploitation?

 

The things you see when you don't have a camera....

Out driving today, there is a sign out front of a law office that reads:

DIVORCE
555-1234
small claims as well (<---or something like that, very small underneath)

It might as well say "Don't work it out, staying married doesn't pay"

 

We live in a capitalistic society that values money more than human lives.

 

Some of my freinds are divorced, from what I see, the womyn is living in abject poverty, and the man is living better than he did during the marraige. Of course, he'll say in court that he's broke. *sigh* Most studies have shown that marriage raises a man's kept income by 30something percent and lowers the womyn by 70something percent.

But the "Oh, the poor man was taken by that hussy" Fallacy is just still alive and well. Rarely does it happen.

NO, only people who beleive the bull of this "Divorce Industry" propaganda. In most cases they should stay out of the dating pool as well as maybethe gene pool as well. LOL!

If so, then there wouldn't be a problem, would there? If every dude who wants every penny to himself and resents supporting his family didn't HAVE a family, or a womyn, they'd have nothing to complain about.....except how lonely they are. These dudes want every penny to themselves, no commitments, nothing required of them, and to be in control all the time. Best for them to stay out of normal relationships, IMO.

 

I'm calling Bullshit.
I've spent too much Time round the Family law Center/nearby watering holes...

 

Not "bullshit." Fact:
Statistics showing that women gain custody of their children 90% of the time are deceptive. These data reflect the fact that over the past 50 years, fathers rarely asked for custody. A study of Utah custody decisions between 1970-1993 shows that only 13% of fathers requested custody (Mason and Quirk 1997: 217).



When fathers do contest custody, studies show they win anywhere from 50 to 75 percent of the time. Maccoby and Mnookin studied 930 divorce cases in California in the 1980's and found that only 14 of these ended up before a judge. But of those cases, fathers won custody 50% of the time (Maccoby & Mnookin 1992).



Weitzman and Dixon found that in Los Angeles County alone in the 1970's, fathers gained custody 63% of the time (Weitzman and Dixon 1986).



A study by the Massachusetts State Supreme Court Taskforce on Gender found that fathers who contest custody in Massachusetts win sole or joint physical custody more than 70% of the time (Jacobs, 1997:11).

 

Mags, I like you and all but you are WAY off base.

And you might object to a guy wanting to live his life like a bachelor again in control of his own cash if his wife takes off with the kids.

Some might object to a guy basically working to support an entire household that abandoned him.

 

Women usually earn less in marriages because they stop working to stay home and raise kids or they work part time and raise kids.

There is no such thing as "Divorce Industry" propoganda. It simply doesn't exist. There are no commercials, magazine ads, or anything even slightly suggesting it. All propoganda is based on a company trying to sell you something, not public awareness or the common good. Also, I know there isn't any "Divorce Industry" propoganda because I'm the first person I know of to say "Divorce Industry" and only like 5 people here on the Hip Forums have ever used it.

I'm not greedy or do I desire control. Corporations are greedy and desire control. Lawyers are greedy and desire control. Vengeful spouses want to get as much out of you as they can get, and they will lie or do whatever it takes to get it, without thinking about you for one second.

I don't appreciate how you just categorized me as a lesser individual who should bend to the will of society. I think your deluded in believing that I'd make a worse husband and father than the average person, because I can actually do much better. As far as I know I am the only case, and every other 15 year old male in the United States is content and willing to be made into a corporate slave and live a bad life.

We live in a society that values money more than human lives. This is true to most individuals. Maybe people will always be greedy, but we could stop facilitating their ability to expliot us by abolishing private property.

 

Still calling Bullshit.
Stats from fruitcakeland/yankeeland are rarely indicative of the balance of the US or Texas.
Most of yall offended yet? That's the breaks...

I Know the way it is here (and the surrounding States).
You evidently don't or do those stats not support your position? *c*

 

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"fruitcake yankeeland" Offended? No, I'm too busy laughing. I can see what I am arguing with. It really isn't worth the headache.

Truth isn't wrong because it makes some people need to leave their comfy factor. What I posted is fact. I don't see you posting any facts, just judgements and opinions.

Please.........

 

that doesnt happen in all divorces. my mom diddn't take anything of my dads. my dad moved to florida and my mom and me and my sisters moved into my grandparants. only stupid bitchy people do that

 

My Sentiments exactly.
That's why I called and am still calling Bullshit.
Yep, exchanges w/you aren't worth the headaches.

But while I'm Here...
I've seen (Fact) and participated (again Fact) in the TX/OK Family law systems for many years.
These are Facts not "just judgements and opinions".
Are you, yet another Internet clairvoyant,
and your stats from other parts of the US
trying to tell me otherwise?

Figures...

 

there is no easy answer to all this

what about this..
a divorce is treated as a court case
the government creates (at random) a jury split evenly between men and women that debate the divorce - the result of the jury has a weighting of verdict. the jury is coached to understand the responsibilities of both parties. divorce is not meant to be some free ride for either participant.
a panel of magistrates of four (evenly men and women) debates the divorce and makes a judgement, each magistrates verdict weighted
the judgement deals with pre nups, who gets what etc, a jury and panel of magistrates will suss out whos being vindictive or money grabbing and will pass judgement on their peers.
oh yes there will be no divorce lawyers involved, coaching agencies for the "defendents" will be outlawed with heavy fines imposed - except voluntary agencies that have been approved.
a flat fee will be paid for the "trial"
the fee pays for the magistrates and jury - there is a set time of debate and examination of the facts
the man and women will be presented with what is expected of them - evidence etc, they will have a case worker to help them present their case. the man and women speak plainly.
the jury and panels split evenly sex wise ensures some sort of balance.
if despite the verdict the man or women decides to refuse the verdict and wants to appeal this can be done at their own expense.
at the basic level this idea is to introduce commonsense and good judgement to a common problem. it will ultimately prove cheaper, quicker and stymy the parasitic tendencies of the legal system. the verdict is to deliver a judgement that allows a continuance of social participation and social responibilities by both parties ie a bad verdict that destroys the work, social life and the community is not desired.

(by punishing a man/women for being married, pushes both parties to the extreme, the man will stop working as it no longer profits him to do so, a women receiving little or no support from an ex partner will eventually go on social security rather than take any responsibility herself)

 

The cool thing about divorce court is there is no jury, or there isn't here. You're just saying how it should be? I agree that there should be juries in divorce court. I also agree that there should be no help from outside lawyers.

The problem is that the American adversary legal system doesn't care about the truth. Its only about telling your side of the story and making lawyers money.

 

Are there any US States other than Texas which allow divorce/custody trials by Jury?

 

you can easily flip that around.

Why would you care that a guy gets a prenup unless you're planning to get a divorce?

When you figure that like 1 in 2 marriages fail these days, it cant be that shocking that people want some security of their assets. I dont think anyone should be engtitled to half of all assets because they put in a "rough" 6 months.

 

Is there anyone who's actually,personally, going through a divorce right now?

Because I am, and I resent this whole notion that women are bloodsuckers that are dumb enough to allow lawyers to call the shots.

It's utter bullshit!

My husband's parasitic lawyer drew up the papers and I didn't need a lawyer to show me that I wasn't signing 15 pages that screwed me. Now I have my own lawyer drawing up the papers.

Why are we divorcing? Because he cheated on me multiple times during our marriage and the woman he "replaced" me with is now pregnant. He was abusive both to me and my children. That is why most marriages end. Not because the women are bored but because the men don't understand the concept of marriage and family these days.

HE ABANDONED HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN and if that means that he has to pay out his ass, then so be it. It's the least he owes for screwing his kids.

Just as many women get screwed in divorce these days as men. Don't believe it? Then I suggest you remove your head from your ass and grow up. My aunt's husband left her after 22 years of marriage for a woman only 3 years older then me. He got the house, he got the dog, he got the newer car. Why? Because he was able to land himself a hot shot lawyer and my aunt couldn't. Everything they built together was taken from her and given solely to him. He cheated and he won.

I am so sick of fucking whiny,pussy,men complaining about "evil, woman, conspiracy, theories" when they are the last beings on this planet that are remotely disenfranchised. It's like you guys keep forgetting that men still run the world, men still make more money, and men are the ones that still have the powers of life and death over women and every other creature on this rock.

Get over yourselves already and keep your dick in your pants when you are supposed to be in a committed relationhip. Problem solved!

//End Rant//

 

so i have the power of life and death over you? interesting...i thought that freedom was taken from men in this country along time ago...