Divorce Horror Story

Yes.
Why?

Come back n rant once you actually go to court.
You forget all's Fair in Love/War/legal negotiations...

 

it seemed to me on reflection that the way to partially solve the parasitic nature of the divorce courts is to remove the parasite ie the lawyer and people who make alot of money from misery. the peoples divorce court was my fantasy.

 

andcrs2, you keep calling "bullshit" to things you don't agree with, YET, I see NO facts, or anything factual or believable from your statements. I gave PROVEN studies on the bullshit about womyn "winning" from the fallacy of the "divorce industry" and you still have shown NOTHING to say otherwise.

You wanna call "bullshit?" Then put up more than "I know what I'm talking about" stuff. So what? Show me proof that what you are saying has a basis in fact. I see none. Just whining.

Never seen a guy screwed by divorce in a way that he couldn't overcome in a few years, I've seen plenty of exwives and their forgotten children living in poverty, often in a way which prevents them from EVER recovering.

Jesus, the misogyny. You never see guys like this doing much about it, or taking any responsibility for their lives, just whining. "Oh, she is making me pay child support. OH MY GOD, How can I get laid when I have to help feed MY own children.......(sobbing)........"

I'm sorry you are going through this, Otter. I hate cheaters.

 

Um...ok. If you're Donald Trump and you are marrying yet another 22 year-old model....yeah, get a pre-nup. She's likely not marrying you because she has a "thing" for ugly comb-overs.

"put in a 'rough' 6 months"
HINT: don't marry someone who is not that into you. Make sure this is your life partner. I see a lot of stupid women fooling themselves into thinking the guy who has cheated on them 5 or 6 times is suddenly going to stop doing that after the wedding. Men fool themselves too. They think the bimbo who loves to party and spend money will make a great wife and mother.

 

Surely if a woman was getting married to her 'life partner' she would know they would never get divorced and thus shouldn't care about signing a prenup, right?

A lot of people have family heirlooms that they don't want to see lost in a divorce because they married a vindictive SOB. Of course everyone SHOULD marry the one person they will spend the rest of their life with...but in reality, divorces do happen.

edit: here, i'll give you a real good example of why prenups are not so evil. My mother's house is in the name of her children. My brother is about to get married to his gf and if they got divorced she would be entitled to a share of my mothers house. Theoretically, if we could not come up with 1/6th value in cash(or equiv) for her she could force my mothers house to be sold so she could collect. How do you get around that? A prenup. They talked about that long before the issue of marriage came up and she is more than happy to sign away her right to the house. Not all prenups are meant to screw the other person over.

 

You see what you choose to see.

Hopefully the uninformed realize this.

 

do you have a citation on that, by chance?

" While research on post-income has tended to show women at a huge disadvantage, newer research taking into account division of assets and costs of access to children is revealing a more complex picture. A few years ago, a Harvard University professor, Lenore Weitzman, was forced to retract her conclusion that women suffered a 73 per cent decline in their standard of living after divorce while males gained 42 per cent. Amending these figures to a 27 per cent drop for women and 10 per cent rise for men, she attributed her mistake to faulty computer calculations. "


http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/worth.php

 

Men "won" joint custody or sole custody? Big difference.

My guess is that men didn't 'win' sole custody, but got joint custody. I think it is very misleading to say men WON...they got what they deserved...joint custody.

I wonder what happened the other third of the time

 

here are some interesting stats...:

• [size=-1]Information from multiple sources shows that only 10% of all noncustodial fathers fit the "deadbeat dad" category: 90% of the fathers with joint custody paid the support due. Fathers with visitation rights pay 79.1%; and 44.5% of those with NO visitation rights still financially support their children. (Source: Census Bureau report. Series P-23, No. 173).[/size]
• [size=-1]Additionally, of those not paying support, 66% are not doing so because they lack the financial resources to pay (Source: GAO report: GAO/HRD-92-39 FS).[/size]
• [size=-1]The Poverty Studies Institute at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, discovered in 1993 that 52% of fathers who owe child support earn less than $6,155 per year.[/size]
• [size=-1]66% of single mothers work less than full time while only 10% of fathers fall into this category. In addition, almost 47% of non-custodial mothers default on support compared with the 27% of fathers who default. (Source: Garansky and Meyer, DHHS Technical Analysis Paper No. 42, 1991).[/size]
• [size=-1]Total Custodial Mothers: 11,268,000. Total Custodial Fathers 2,907,000 (Source: Current Population Reports, U.S. Bureau of the Census, Series P-20, No. 458, 1991).[/size]
• [size=-1]66% of all support not paid by non-custodial fathers is due to inability to pay. (Source: U.S. General Accounting Office Report, GAO/HRD-92-39FS January 1992).[/size]

[size=-1]The following is sourced from: Technical Analysis Paper No. 42, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Income Security Policy, Oct. 1991, Authors: Meyer and Garansky.[/size]

• [size=-1]Custodial mothers who receive a support award: 79.6%[/size]
• [size=-1]Custodial fathers who receive a support award: 29.9%[/size]
• [size=-1]Non-custodial mothers who totally default on support: 46.9%[/size]
• [size=-1]Non-custodial fathers who totally default on support: 26.9%[/size]

 

I could say the same thing about yourself. *sigh*

 

I was referring to the politicians,world leaders, and judges...the vast majority of whom are men.

*sigh*

 

Whom women voted in or were appointed by people whom women voted in. If george bush holds the right of life and death over you...he holds it over me too. It has nothing to do with gender.

*sigh*

 

Sad to say, Thanks to a Famouse case, IF you claim her on your taxes for 1/2 the year, she gets HALF! Period.
My only divorce was very amiable. I wanted custody of my Mum-in-law!And were still friends today.

 

It interesting to see what I thought awhile back.

Really the entire point of all inequalities is to devide people and have them fight amongst themselves, especially the inequalities between the sexes. I'd say women get screwed more than men, especially in some places.

Anyways... now I want to abolish gender roles.

Marriage is a joke. Gays can't get married. It is a religious ceremony and an instutuion. It violates the first amendment.

It means nothing to me, and I'm not a Christian.

 

I think we are living in shitty times. Men are killing themselves everyday because the courts are killing our spirits.
i hope to live to see the day when these mean spirited nasty bitches and legal folk recieve their wrath for their lack of moral decency. Excessive greed has a way of taking people out who have takin people out. they feel ok about it becuase it is "legal". they seem to have ignored the higher laws blinded by their greed. the effort to eliminate testosterone? so who will defend these greedy wheezles when they have destroyed those who once loved and defended them.
so when these greedy little gold digging protistutes have destoyed the man and their is no man left except the man from the east. now the greddy little beeoch is forced to live in a stall with 12 other women and she is one of 12 wives. her only freedom is to serve him. the legal folks that defend her, they exist in the other horse stall and since the man from the east is bisexual he is able to have these for himself as well. thier arses are for his use and they can do nothing to change that becuase they have killed their fellow american man with their nit picking legal bull shit.
family court men are comitting suicide everyday and no one cares.
i tried suicide when the ex ran off with my daughter
to make matters worse we have a president that cheats on vote counting.
the worse is a fascist arizona sheriff who wants to open up a school. this way he can crimninalize kids right out of the vagina. he makes his money on tax revenues. by criminalizing every one and everything the government can become a huge monopoply similar to hitlers.
and yet these sick ass people in sun city az vote him in. they do not care about their grand kids they just care about the promises he makes to them.
so what if he criminalized your grand kids. these same ignorant f's got duked by the feds when they sold them junk bond through their fall guy chuck keating. they were duked by their excessive greed to retire and play with their little limp putters. thanks to the greed of sun city we have a larger lost vegas. you see the devil has gotten to a place where famililies are divided thus their is no bond and strength
bonding in families is always a threat to an evil empire.
for a while there will be a lot of this sort of insanity but in a world where karma does exist the day will come when those who have palyed dirty to the tee will be recieving thiers in the form of a horse stall. i will give thanks to god for bringing on the higher law of conscience.
how often we see these same folk attend sunday church only to brutally beat their fellow man all week long in the name of "law" which actually translates to "greedy people need an excuse to cause another to part with their fianancial securtiy so that they might have a false sense of securiy for themselves. when you consider the greed you might want to consider
taxes.when you consider taxes you might want to consider the source.
perhaps a short little drunk guy in texas with a big man mouth.
fortunatley their are still good people left in america. so long as ass clown Arpaio doesn't affect them with his diseased mind. imagine arpaio going to bed at night his mind racing with power trippin thoughts the same way hitlers did.
Arpaio sitting thier at his desk dreaming of a world where everyone is chained up he is holding his shriveled up pee pee. his wife offers him pleasure but he turns it down opting for manual stroking. he barks at her "eave the room now,so I can get back to my thoughts. she leaves and yanks it harder when he remebers all the people that died in his jail cells
you see in essence the devil uses any disguise it can hitler had his and a part of hitler lives in Arpaio. power trippin piece of crap.
all in all thier is some real craZy stuff now days and the E fingRA did
not make it any betterfor society as a whole. it just gave the government more opportunbity to impose its values on us.
when you create more government you create more insanity.
where are the familyvalues now
how conveinant of the churches to flex with the times.
lets get back to the higher laws of family unity not legal segreation.
END FRAGMENTATION.

 

Think laws should be with equal imact on both sexs, and not favoring one side than the other.

Also believe men should have some groups like women have for purposes like Divorce, Care, Custody ...etc.

I think the world is going to be a kind of Feminine dominated culture, which is not healthy at all because men are not as united as women.

 

Too much in here to read this late at night..Got through about the first three-four pages.

I have a male friend married to a super rich, really psycho woman. She's very abusive... I ended up in a situation where I unfortunately witnessed a lot.

They have a prenup..What are his chances? He's afraid to leave. He has nothing of his own, & she's made it very difficult for him to work.

 

You're quite mistaken. The majority of the prosecutors and judges in the neck of the woods I live in are women. And that's the direction things are moving in all over the country.

 

In most states CONTESTED child custody battles are awarded to the man more than 78% of the time. The reason more womyn get kids is that they WANT them. Chances are, if as a man, you want custody of your kids, and you ask for it (not just use it as a bargaining tool, and then drop the request as soon as the judge reduces your child support payments to something that a child simply can't live on) you WILL get the kids.

And it is NOT just mothers who are involved in the "Divorce Industry" http://secretdivorce.com/ LOL! My heavens. Google "Men's Rights" or "Father's Rights" and you willl see the most wanton hatred of womyn AND children anywhere. In the "Father's Rights" movement, which is run, in part by a group of men who have abused their wives and sexually assaulted their own children, you will see. Womyn aren't always the problem.

 

THANK YOU, Green. You are learning. But, honey, marragie is NOT a joke. I have been with my husband for 28 years, It takes work on BOTH sides. It isn't a game to be won or a battle to fight. It is a relationship, where, in this day and age, people who are being abused can finally get away. THAT Is probably the main reason there are more divorces, womyn, who, years ago, would have to put up with abuse from thier husbands NOW can leave. One of the problems is "Equality" has reduced maintainance to the womyn, and basically destroyed child support.

Men make more money, on the average. If there is a divorce, yes, he should pay child support and if his wife cannot make enough money to support herself (especially if she ewas prevented from getting an education or working on her career) he should also support her. Once you get married there is basically NO SUCH THING as the "Relationship Ending" especially if you have kids. Your kids are YOURS to support, until they graduate college.

My advice to both men and womyn. MAKE SURE you and the person you are marrying are compatible (this, for the most part willl take you a number of years to find out before you get married) work on the relationship every day, don't play Martyr, if it is important enough to get upset about, it is important enought to work on and discuss. If your partner (and I am talking about FINDING THIS OUT BEFORE YOU GET MARRIED) refused to work on issues, find someone else.