Do people still believe 911 wasnt a inside job?

I actually feel the "no planes were used" theory severely discredits headway exposing the evidence of the bombs.

This is, of course, old. But thank you for keeping it alive.

 

Sorry man, I posted the evidence for people that have at least a minimal understanding of the vernacular, what they are looking at, what is possible and what is not and the physics involved.

I have no intention of holding someones hand and walking them through this from demolition kindergarten forward correcting their misuse of words or preventing them from going down every rabbit hole known to man, and frankly I wont entertain that kind of foolishness.

Maybe someone else will pick up that ball, but I have better things to do than practice typing for your sake.

 

Another one who ignores the people who seen only an explosion.

It does not discredit anything until proven.

so prove it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5y8PtfKA14"]9/11 Eyewitness - FOX Freelancer Harley Guy Mark Walsh - YouTube


I am so done. What did everyone think of the Susan Lindauer movie?

Zzap

storch

Odon II (you must have watched it before seeing your response time)

 

what about this mark walsh?

he doesnt look anything like your druggie on tv.

paraphrased:
Harley Guy - [introduced as "Mark Walsh'] "...come out of nowhere and just ream right into the side of the twin tower, exploding through the other side...and then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense".

you want people to accept your drama queen druggie actor who wants to kill cab drivers as a structural engineering authority? OMFG! LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDa-L4hHHo&feature=related"]How the myth was sold

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Oh and BTW on another interview he said he saw an engine fall off the plane and bounce across the top of the buildings, do you mind showing me please? All the CGI that I have seen to date does not show an egine falling off the plane.

 

The consequences of telling the TRUTH.

Is everything she says the truth?
Did Lindauer have mental health issues?
Did Lindauer work for the CIA?
Was Lindauer simply a keen lobbyist?
Lindauer believes she was a lynch-pin in brokering peace within the middle east, and could have prevented 9/11 - is that true?
Was her role exaggerated?
She claims, there wasn't going to really be much of a 9/11 investigation - is that true? (with hindsight).
Lindauer claims that for a number of years she had worked for the CIA and DIA undertaking communications with the Iraqi government, serving as a back-channel in negotiations - is that true?
Iraqi was not resistant to weapons inspections - is that true?
Did Iraq want peace with the US?
Was Lindauer the chief CIA asset covering the Libyan house, The Iraqi embassy, and the Yemen, Syrian Egypt and Malaysian embassies?
Did she he know everything?
Did Iraq have information regarding 9/11 - specifically it was going to happen on 9/11?
Was the Iraqi government willing to broker peace and understanding with the US, and was the US also willing to broker peace agreements?
Was there a comprehensive peace agreement underway in 2001?

If the US did not gain information regarding terrorist attacks on the WTC's was the US is willing to go to war with Iraq?

Did the US or Iraq know it was going to happen exactly as it did?

To paraphrase:
I don't actually know for certain but I have been told during August/September the CIA NSA FBI planted a thermate bomb in the WTC - nobody else could have made this bomb (no confirmation were exactly this was placed or where they were placed)
Did any detonations occur below the impact zones after the the towers were hit?

I think Lindauer is a an intelligent woman who believes she had a greater role in world politics than she had - think Sarah Palin.

 

not bad, I give her a A-, most of what she said is on the map. Funny thing though even she is afraid to say the "N" word.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg"]Extreme Prejudice - CIA Whistle Blower Susan Lindauer PDX 911Truth - YouTube


I especially liked the part where she explains how the PATRIOT ACT is based on the same model that Russia used to set up the Gulags!

The secret tribunals, indefinite detention, the abrogation of habeous corpus, right to a speedy trial, hearsay triable, "secret evidence" exactly like Englands "Star Chamber" kangaroo courts.

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Not much was known about Russia due to the cold war. It is why the police state that the constitution set up is completely out of control in america.

Suffice to say this country going forward is in a lot of trouble, or at least many have said that the state is the greatest danger to the people!

I am inclined to agree

"There is no spoon"

Thanks for posting that, its well worth a listen.

 

After the literally hundreds of reports of the basement and lobby being blown out, and bloodied people being pulled out, you bring it up as if its the first time you ever thought about it. this is why its getting extremely difficult to take you seriously.






There is an incedible amount of study material out there that you can review to bring yourself up to speed.

 

If the basement and the lobby had been 'blown out' with thermate/thermite explosives nobody would be walking away from that.

No, it isn't the first time I have heard it...

You flip-flopping between what is and isn't valid is why it's getting extremely difficult to take you seriously.

 

Your continual attempts to drag me into your strawman arguments is getting annoying.

I never made any claim as to how the basement was blown out.

If you continue to construct strawman arguments in my name I will be forced to ignore your posts or respond in appropriate disdain.

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Didn't a guy named Jennings mention having to step over dead bodies in the lobby of WTC-7?

 

yup, and that they started prepping 7 by blasts timed with the explosions in wtc 1 ans 2.

He had a position of authority and said no boiler could do that!

Ironically, he is dead now, supposedly of questionable circumstances. whoda guessed....

Thatll teach him for telling the truth.

In America we bury our heros.

 

I wasn't actually talking about you in particular with regards to what might have blown out the lobby/basement.
All you have to say is: I don't think there were thermate/thermite bombs placed in the lobby or basement.
I think that...[fill in blank]
Lindauer, said that a thermate/thermite bomb (I can't remember which one she settled on) was placed in the buildings.
The general consensus seems to be it was either thermite or thermate - so that is what I was commenting on.
If that was true, nobody would be walking away from that.

Btw, I don't think there is any sound on your bloodied man clip. I've seen that before but can't remember what he said.

The comment about flip-flopping was directly aimed at you, though.

 

You said that if it had been a thermate or thermite bomb, nobody would have walked away from that. So, after having it pointed out to you that an explosion took place in the lobby of the WTC-7, and people didn't walk away from it, are you saying that you believe it was a thermate/thermite bomb?

 

Who pointed out to me that an explosion took place in the lobby of the WTC-7 and people didn't walk away from it?
Roughly what time did this bomb go off?
If it was (indirectly) Barry Jennings account - he wasn't in the lobby at the time - so wouldn't know what actually occurred.
He heard 'explosions' - yes.
Which could have come from anywhere - even from outside of WTC 7.
I believe both towers had collapsed while Mr Jennings was inside WTC 7.
He said he was on the 6 floor...
If a bomb had gone off below him (lets say in the lobby) and blew a hole all the way to him...would there really be a lobby for him to walk out of? I don't think so.

I believe he went through a traumatic time and embellished his account..

Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bADURTAvtgk"]NIST FOIA: WTC7 - Lobby and South Face at Around 10:15am (Mark LaGanga, CBS) - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc"]Barry Jennings UNCUT Interview, Bombs In WTC7, Explosions In Lobby - 9/11 Exposed - YouTube

 

No.

 

How many people died in WTC 7? (clue: rhymes with nero)

Barry Jennings himself disagrees with their interpretation of his words. Barry Jennings told the BBC: "I didn't like the way you know I was portrayed. They portrayed me as seeing dead bodies. I never saw dead bodies"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/7434230.stm#10

(I suppose 'they' got to him, right?)

 

"When we arrived, the police were in the lobby... Me and Mr. Hess who I didn't know at the time... [got] to the 23rd floor... we couldn't get in. We had to go back down, then police and security took us to the freight elevators where they took us back up and we did get in.

Upon arriving into the OAM POC, we noticed that everybody was gone... only me and Mr. Hess were up there. After I called several individuals, one individual told me to leave and leave right away. Mr. Hess came running back in and said, "We're the only ones up here, we gotta get out of here."

He found the stairwell... we went down the stairs. When we reached the sixth floor... there was an explosion and the landing gave way. I was left there hanging and I had to climb back up and I had to walk back up to the 8th floor... it was dark and very very hot. I asked Mr. Hess to test the phones as I took a fire extinguisher and broke out the windows.

Once I broke out the windows I could see outside below me. I saw police cars on fire, buses on fire. I looked one way, the building was there, I looked the other, the building was gone. I was trapped in there for several hours. I was trapped in there when both buildings came down.

The firefighters came. I was going to come down on the fire hose, because I didn't want to stay there because it was too hot; they came to the window and started yelling "do not do that, it won't hold you". And then they ran away. I didn't know what was going on. That's when the first tower fell.

When they started running, the first tower started coming down. I had no way of knowing that. And then I saw them come back... with more concern on their faces. And then they ran away again. The second tower fell.

So as they turned and ran the second time, the guy said "We'll be back for you". And they did come back, this time they came back with 10 firefighters. They kept asking "where are you? We don't know where you are?" I said "I was on the North side of the building," because when I was on the stairs I saw the North side. All this time, I'm hearing all kinds of explosions. I'm thinking that may it's the police cars [and] buses that are on fire. I don't see.. you know, but I'm still hearing all these explosions.

When they finally got to us, and they took us down to what they called the lobby, because when I asked them, I said "Where are we?" He said, "This was the lobby." And I said, "You got to be kidding me." Total ruins. Keep in mind, when I came in there, the lobby had nice escalators--it was a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw was unbelievable.

And the firefighter who took us down kept saying, "Do not look down." I kept saying, "Why?" We were stepping over people. And you know when you can feel when you are stepping over people. They took us out through a hole... in this wall, and that's how they got us out... this huge police officer came over to me and he said, "You have to run". I said, "I can't, my knees are swollen". [He said] "You'll have to get on your knees and crawl then, because we have reports of more explosions." That's when I started crawling and I saw this guy fall behind me, and his comrades came to his aid and they dragged him to safety."
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It kind of sounds like he's talking about stepping over people. Why did the firefighter tell him to not look down?

 

Maybe you want to argue with his later statement that he did not see any dead bodies. Maybe you want to find out how many people died in WTC 7 during 9/11 - and inform us. I have no idea why the firefighter told him not to look down. Mr Jennings accounts are contradictory. Perhaps the firefighter did not tell him not to look down at all. If nobody died in WTC 7 there would be no dead bodies for him to step over, would there?

 

What time did Mr Jennings get out of WTC 7?