do u smoke marijuana? if not this is the thread for u, if so u might learn something

Are you fucking serious?

 

I'll do it right now:

Our entire government and society is based upon the Roman and Greek civilizations. It is well known and documented that Romans and Greeks practiced pedophelia, mostly homosexual pedophelia, and it was widely accepted and condoned. Well, since our forefathers, the "smartest men on Earth", who copied the Roman Empire, smoked weed, we should smoke weed too! And since the Roman Empire, the guys our forefathers copied (yea, you think they had new ideas? pffft) practiced homosexual pedophelia, we should as well.

Oh, and by the way. Since tobacco, which causes much death and harm to our health, is legal, then something harmless, like pedophelia, should be made legal. Along with marijuana.

See? That stupid logic can be used to argue for anything.

 

I am always fucking serious mate.

 

actually, SMOKING marijuana helps with alzheimers so i dont see how u made the connection that it decreases intelligence. and the thing i like about def is that he always speaks the truth and sees both points of view. (i also try my best to do this and just so u know, i do see both sides of the argument and yours isnt very strong, and i have yet to see a plant as beneficial as marijuana)

 

"I keep mentioning because people will do it. If you legalize it, people will do it in public, do it while driving, while doing this, while doing that. Just like with alcohol."

They already do all of those things. Like making prostitution illegal will prevent people from going to hookers... About 25% of all males have lost their virginity to a hooker, yet they did so illegally. Illegality doesn't prevent murderers from murdering.

You're really grasping at straws now. You have to listen to reason sooner or later.

"It's all cool mate. I used to be kinda crusty and thought it was cool to drink and smoke up in the park and all that. But then I grew up."

Don't use the grow up argument especially considering how rude you remain to be to other very REAL people on the internet. I don't smoke in public, because that would be irresponsible.


"Great, so then make laws against "irresponsible drug use" so people can do it more. Yeah, you have great logic in your overall argument. I can see you've thought this out for a long time."

They won't do it more necessarily. Did people drink more or less before or after prohibition?

"Smoke less pot dude, and think more."

You don't know what you're talking about. It's hilarious how you continue to use snide remarks even after you tell ME to grow up =/ Good one.

"It also leads to feminism and fatherless children who don't grow up learning that "responsibility" that you speak of."

What? You went off on a tangent. Stay on topic.

"Yes. Wouldn't that be great for the government? A nation full of mellow and mostly harmless people sitting in a circle holding hands while they get beaten on the head by riot squads."

Who's point are you in favor for, mine or yours? Getting beat up by cops is a wrong behavior by the government... especially if they are merely holding hands and chilling out. Doesn't the government WANT people to be mellow... after all, being mellow will only lessen violence. A good thing, no?


"Derailing thoughts and tangents = creativity. So you're saying pot makes you less creative? Gee, this other stupid hippy told me pot makes people more creative!
"

That's not what I mean by derailing. Obviously, pot makes you more creative, but it depends on the individual. Tangents don't = creativity, it leads to confusion. Creativity comes from a free flow of thoughts, right, but thats exactly what you experience while you're high, it's just more focused.

"Yeah so far the only valid arguments for legalization is where industrial hemp is concerned. But as for psychoactive grade marijuana.. I see no good argument for legalization."

Read up on what many doctors, law enforcement workers, etc., think about on this subject. It's pretty obvious that you aren't very well informed on this subject.

 

Marijuana can also exacerbate psychosis and schizophrania. It can also precipitate such conditions. Since you're a stoner and probably dumb (as indicated by your us of "u"), the word "precipitate" means "to bring about" "to cause".

 

but you have yet to provide any benefits of pedophilia which there are none while marijuana remains extremely useful. and to clear something up, marijuana and hemp are in fact the same plant. marijuana was never called marijuana until the govt adopted the mexican slang word "marihuana" to try and make hemp illegal

 

"They already do all of those things. Like making prostitution illegal will prevent people from going to hookers... About 25% of all males have lost their virginity to a hooker, yet they did so illegally. Illegality doesn't prevent murderers from murdering."

Yay, you're finally coming about mate! Making irresponsible behavior illegal will not prevent it. Spot on!

"You're really grasping at straws now. You have to listen to reason sooner or later."

When I'm given some reason to listen to, I will.

"They won't do it more necessarily. Did people drink more or less before or after prohibition?"

You're the ass that just said a few posts ago that making something illegal makes it "taboo" and more "hip" and "cool" to do.

"You don't know what you're talking about. It's hilarious how you continue to use snide remarks even after you tell ME to grow up =/ Good one."

I never told you to grow up. I told you to stop smoking pot.

"What? You went off on a tangent. Stay on topic."

No, it's true. You speak about responsibility and hippies. Well I know few hippies who have responsibility. And I know few, fiscally responsible, upstanding and productive citizens who smoke as much pot as much hippies do, if they smoke at all.

It's true. You can research it yourself. Along with the sexual revolution, came feminism. And with feminism, a generation of fatherless and deviant children.

"Who's point are you in favor for, mine or yours? Getting beat up by cops is a wrong behavior by the government... especially if they are merely holding hands and chilling out. Doesn't the government WANT people to be mellow... after all, being mellow will only lessen violence. A good thing, no?"

Do you like the government, or not? Would you rather have all your senses and faculties with you and fight the government or just passively chill out and smoke up and let them ticket you for it so they can make money off you while you let them since you're stoned and passively go along with it?

"Read up on what many doctors, law enforcement workers, etc., think about on this subject. It's pretty obvious that you aren't very well informed on this subject."

Most of the consenting opinions amongst cops is that the penalties are too stiff for pot. Not that it should be legal. Pissing in public is illegal, but certainly doesn't warrent a felony charge or a month in jail.

 

ok, it hurts your memory, not your intelligence. my evidence is myself and several other people who had much better memory before they started smoking than now. it also seems to have slowed my thinking in general. so no, it doesn't necessarily affect general intelligence, but it does make you less smart.



and my point was that you made two argument in a row that basically amounted to "well they might have been high so why not keep using the fact that they were high as my legalization argument?"

 

Well, I came in in the middle of the argument, but it seemed like an awfully abecedarian and well, retarded argument.

 

No.

Marijuana refers to the pyschoactive grade.
Hemp refers to the (useful) industrial grade.

Only industrial grade HEMP is actually usefull.

Oh BTW the logic of the argument isn't bout usefullness, you twit. Damn you're stupid. Can you follow anything I say? Learn some logic or how to read.

Also, many of the founding fathers were Freemasons. Maybe we should all become Freemasons and smoke pot.

lol

 

however, if you were to put marijuana in a vaporizer it would release the THC that helps with many things and would not be harmful to your health. and i use the abbr. "u" b/c i am lazy and while reading it is pronounced the same as the word "you" and ben franklin was one of the first to use contractions and such so i assume you are implying that he must have been a stoner hippy as well. i consider abbr. and contractions an amazing gift b/c humans are able to communicate much more quickly over the internet.

 

My whole point was against the argument:

"Marijuana is 'harmless' and therefore should be legalized because tobacco is harmful and legal."

Stupid argument. Like this one:

"Pedophelia is 'harmless' and therefore should be legalized because tobacco is harmful and legal."

It has nothing to do with "usefulless". Damn, I hate talking to stoners. I think I'll stop now.

 

And don't forget the Freemasons control the world. 23 skidoo.

You've brought about a lot of subjects and haven't had much of a coherent string connecting them.

Whats your point here Ithaca?

 

hemp is marijuana and u still have yet to provide any information on the benefits of pedophilia and tobacco. i dont see them providing food, clothing, shelter, medicine or plastic ten times stronger than steel.

 

Pedophilia is a non issue here. The differences are obvious and it's being used to draw attention away from the subject.

Keep it concise please.

 

and the article was about the legalization of hemp due to its benefits and not b/c it is harmless. ur right when u say that that could provide an argument for anything to be made legal or illegal but if something is truly harmless (unlike pedophilia which may be mentally harmful to the child and lead to murders, money and power cause murder and theyre still the basis of most societies) it might as well be legal

 

lode is right, the point of this post was to provide information on the usefullness of hemp and not to start a legalization issue (although it was bound to happen, being misinformed as people are about the so called "dangers of marijuana")

 

Weed doesn't cause schizophrenia. If you are predisposition to have schizophrenia, then THC isn't going to bring that about. There is cause and effect mistakes being made here. If you are going to get scizophrenia no matter what, and smoke weed, then they can say it CAUSES it, or brings it about. People with mental illnesses smoke weed to ALLEVIATE their symptoms...

Edit: whatever

 

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