Do we still have Free Speech in the USA?

Freedom of speech or no, it is absolutely certain no one has civil rights in the US anymore. You can label anyone a terrorist, easily, and the freedoms the authorities have to deal with alleged terrorists are outrageous. So much for the land of the free.

The founding fathers are turning in their graves. This is not what they had in mind for this bastion of freedom and liberty they sought to create.

 

Nothing patriotic about the Patriot Act.It's ironic that President Nixon basically had to resign because he wiretapped only one party or person.-- Now anyone and everyones phone could be tapped.Isn't that something the former Soviet Union did?So I would say NO, in some ways free speech has been thrown out the window in the US.

 

No, I don't watch TV, so I haven't seen the show. What is it about?

The thought of being monitored doesn't mean much to me because pretty much everyone is being monitored through NSA programs like Eschelon and Carnivore. Everyone's e-mails and telephone coversations are being fed through the NSA, so it's not like they're monitoring only me. All you have to do is type one of the thousands of NSA code words (ie. explosives, guns, nuclear charges, ambush, etc.) and they're going to pick up on it. Besides, when you realize what lies down the road, you realize there is really nothing to be fearful of. I am not afraid of the government, but I am afraid of what could happen if people don't wake up.

 

We get it through Netflix.

Just a comic book type story. Twisted stories. Convoluted storylines. But a government working undercover to monitor and control and then ultimately destroy the characters with super powers. I just laugh when I see some of the stuff because I just think how much of that stuff is truly happening and how people are blind. Don't know if it would be up your alley. Elements of cheesy but fun all the same.

sidenote: Though when I asked my daughter my superpower she told me it would be yelling at people.

 

Hehe... cute.

I will look into that series.

 

It's a good show. Parts of it would be right up your alley, PR - a clandestinely oppressive government ready, willing and, indeed, eager to sacrifice its population for "the greater good."

 

Wrong. Anything is their vehicle. Including the private sector. These are individuals acting in contravention of government.

 

Yeah, but under corporatism the "private sector" and the government become one and the same thing. To me government is just the simplified term because most people already know that the state is controlled by the corporations and the central bankers.

 

It's a misnomer that actually aids and buys into corporatist thinking. The optimal term to describe it would be "the elite."

 

Rock on! You put it well, my brain couldn't find words. I am not always good at describing things Just know what I like.

 

But "the elite" is too vague for the common man.
And the elite is dependent on the government they've chosen to retain their power, so if the people were to stand up to and question their government, the elite would lose a lot of their power.

Legally, the government and its leaders hold power over corporations and the central bank. There is no reason the government (the people? ) could sever the ties from the corporations and the federal reserve. Well, no real reason. Especially considering the latest amendments.. Label them terrorists, and all their problems are solved :tongue:

I don't know where I'm going with this. Frustration is my emotional governor on these topics.

 

I'm pretty sure we never did.

 

Hmmm.You can anonymously post loads of stuff on the Net.
But as soon as you say the truth that the "War on Terror" was just a "War of Terror" to grab land before China and the EU became world powers , then you're gonna run into problems.

Just take the Dixie Chicks vs Britney Spears , as an example.

The so called freedom /"power" of free speech that Britain and America have are illusionary in many ways.If people * think* they are free , they won't rebel against their "captors".

Or more accurately , the people who *do* have freedom or "power".

Just like Kanye West said , whats the point of free speech , if the powers that be control everything and just keep brainwashing them?

 

It's not questioning it, but taking possession of it. You can't make things work for you if you think of them as entities apart from yourself, that you have no power over. The first order of business would be to drop self-defeating fatalisms like "lesser of two evils" --- IMO.

Also notice that (at least in the U.S.), the people who tend to feel ideologically threatened by government are the first ones to come to its defense when governmental policy is criticized. The same people who shout their hatred of government from their rooftops are incapable of listening to the legitimately critical stance of Iran on the U.S. role in Israel, etc.

At first blush that sounds contradictory, but it's not: these are people who are afflicted by the fixed idea that what is shared is not theirs. What is public is not theirs; government is not theirs...it is not something you make work for yourself, it's something you bow down to.

 

free speech zones bitches.

 

Yeah I agree with this, unless you have something particularly nasty to say, you're free to say whatever you want. So have a coke, smile, and shut the fuck up.

Hell you can even say the bad stuff, they still have neo nazi rallies in america, officially they're allowed to do it. Singapore, you have to ask the government if you want to hold any kind of rally, and they have a specific place (where practically no goes) for you to hold it.

 

a professor at columbia got put on the no fly list for asking, in a lecture, if america deserved 9/11.

tha is not free speech.

 

the obama administration is trying to impose more laws against hate speech and more laws to regulate the internet. so i can honestly say that freespeech's days could be numbered.

 

I voted "I don't care".

 

I have never had my right to free speech infringed upon in the U.S.

Can't say the same about other countries.