do you believe in aliens

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  1. hippieatheart

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    One time I was driving back from West Virginia by myself at night, and I thought I saw a UFO. Thats about as close as I've come to one.

    But I still believe in them! There has to be something else out there!
     
  2. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    I wonder if they got hipforums on other planets and talk about us(aliens) wouldnt that be trippy. and I voted yes
     
  3. Jimi_Lives

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    I believe in aliens. I totally do. I thought I saw one the other day, but it was just a sasquatch.
     
  4. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    at 31 sec. it makes a blatant appeal to emotion. the whole "it feels right so it must be" way of thinking is bullshit (see truthiness).
    at 1 min the postulate that because we can see something that might be an object using an IR spectrum that these must be aliens. this is bullshit, yet another human attempt to explain away something we don't understand.
    and at 1.2 min they say that those tube thingies they see using high speed cameras must be aliens, and this is just wrong in the same way as number 2.

    sorry dude, go pick up a book on critical thinking, you'll see the traps that people set.
     
  5. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    open up your mind, universe is endless- the fact that we exists means something else does also. ive believed init all my life, and seems majority of people here agree
     
  6. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    the fact that we exist does not mean that other shit exists...
    that don't even make sense.


    i agree that it's an infinite universe. to (loosely) quote HHGH: which is basically everything and nothing, everything you can think of and more nothing than you can comprehend.

    the fact is that the exact circumstances that make life possible here on earth are pretty slim. this means that if there is other life like us out there, it's probably few and far between. furthermore the likelihood that that life would develop along the lines of ours is probably slim to remote.


    Again, i'm not saying that there isn't a consciousness, or possibly something we would label life out there, but the odds of us recognizing it are low, the odds that they are basically little men doing things that we would do given more technology is so slim it's basically impossible. (nothing is impossible, given, it's not technically impossible to live to 180 and smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day, it's just so damn unlikely that for all intents and purposes it's 'impossible')



    At least you acknowledge that it's a 'belief', and not a scientific fact.

    In order to believe you must first suspend your disbelief, and i'm not really willing to do that. i have no problem with people believing whatever they want (as long as it doesn't negatively impact me), i just have a problem with the people who make money from it.

    and just because a majority of people believe something don't make it true. the witches aren't poisioning our crops. . .
     
  7. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    u moron watch the vid,it is a scientific fact, but what do you reckon the 50% ratrded worlds population would di if it was made public, and government admitted. they would go nuts, because after all theire retrdness couldnt handle it. which is hy the edidence is hidden, look at my sig, absense of evidence is not evidence of absense
     
  8. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    There are an infinite number of stars out there. There are an infinite number of chunks of rocks revolving around these stars.

    Earth is not too close and not too far from our star. It would be absurd to think that there isn't a possibility of this life phenomena occurring where we humans can't see yet. In the right conditions, all it takes is a few billion years. Other planets may have evolved civilizations before our planet was even formed.

    This is all speculatory of course, and I believe it to be one possibility.
     
  9. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    Actually, the quote goes "absence of proof is not proof of abscence." Abscence of evidence is evidence of abscence....
    and you're calling me a retard...

    how much success you have convincing people of the rightness of your cause by calling them names? hell, even the christians learned that being a bully is no match for a clever pamphlet...
    And it's odd that you think that half the world is dumber than you are. it's a sign of a sick philosophy. whenever you divide the world into two camps (believers and infidels, proletariat and bourgoise, aryan and non-aryan) you become capable of true evil.

    I actually have the balls and the capacity to argue, more or less, coherently while you just resort to name calling. who's the guillible one here.

    tell me, what evidence would it take for you to admit that you were wrong?
     
  10. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    bring me jesus, and i will admit that theres such thing as religion, and unless he makes a blind man see, i will laugh @ his face and call him retard also
     
  11. natural philosophy

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    you make excellent points, mr. green
     
  12. Asmodean

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    I agree, and if we go on like we do now we probably die off. Such a pity, but well deserved.
     
  13. -decaying-existence-

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    We humans are the aliens, humans were genetically created from different species of alien lifeforms and earthly animals, in my opinion. It all makes sense to me, I mean first off no animal on earth could ever just all of a sudden have a brain ten sizes bigger then its counterpart and all of a sudden have knowledge or have the ability to learn and figure out things on its own. I just don't buy the, "humans came from chimpanzees solely" theory, to me humans are part of an intelligent species of aliens who millions of years ago mutated us with possibly monkeys and another third party animal and there you go, a Human. Of course we still are part alien and more alien then earth like. We are a genetic experiment that went right but also went terribly wrong. I don't really know this as fact but its just my honest opinion.
     
  14. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    Unless, unlike it's counterparts, it was able to take in large amounts of protein because it became an effective predator, basically overnight.
    All animals posess the ability to learn, most can communicate, and some can even empathise, a few can even build and use tools, so it's not like we're all that unique in the whole thinking arena.
    what sets us apart from other primates is that we walk upright. this freed our hands up for manipulating and carrying tools, and this let us develope to where we are today.

    I'm not saying that i believe in any religion. hell i'm kindof an athiest, and i definately do not 100% believe any dogmatic text. this includes ufo theory.
    i'm asking you what would it take for you to believe that little green men in flying saucers making crop circles is really just the result of too much television and human greed?
     
  15. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    i dont think theyre little green men just, they can be anything ^ as you yourself mentioned these are cliches, but cliches everyone knows about
     
  16. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    basicly if you could prove that the milky way is the only existing galaxy, and our measly solar system is the only thing i might believe you. but everyone knows this isnt the case, there maybe millions more galaxies just like or even better life conditions than ours
     
  17. -decaying-existence-

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    Of course there are hundreds types of animals that can learn(to a certain extent)and yes some use tools(to a certain extent) but I mean c'mon now, like I said earlier do you seriously believe that a monkey or chimpanzee, if you will, randomly evolved into a human, overnight? Because I certainly don't and ok, maybe it wasn't an overnight process, its still highly unlikely.

    So say it is true, then why aren't humans being formed in africa somewhere or south america, why aren't there more mutated species or evolved species, how come we can't take a monkeys dna and put a little human dna together and breed a human? How come? You know why because its bullshit, thats right, bullshit, us humans have no freakin clue what we are or where we really came from, well at least the regular people don't but the true rulers or creators of us, the people who run the world behind closed doors know. And so then we can only give theories and educated guesses...
     
  18. natural philosophy

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    evolution doesn't happen 'overnight'. Evolution happens over the course of millions and billions of years. Animals just don't randomly mutate into new species. Organisms adapt to their surroundings. That's why caucasians are white. Because they spent millions of years away from the equator. It didn't just happen overnight.
     
  19. -decaying-existence-

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    Your right and thats why in my post I said, ok maybe not overnight, meaning it takes a long while. I just don't believe in evolution being the answer, the answer to lifes questions. Its too simple to say, oh, it evolved over a few million years, a bit vague if you ask me. And that doesn't mean religion is the answer either, again, too easy and answer.
     
  20. natural philosophy

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    the evidence isn't very vague
     

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