Do you get deep when you do shrooms?

I get like that too I get very anti war, anti government.....etc.

 

Anti anything is not really the same as "in harmony with", jmt.

 

Well when you feel in harmony with everything doesn't it expose the things that break that harmony? Like war, governments, and greed?

 

i say holy cow and stare.

 

I say holy cow shit mycelium

 

ugh man it makes me kind of (m/s)ad when people do this... listen... take in the message... it's usually not bullshit.

 

When you trip some more and have more life experience get back to us. I'm not saying that all the profound thoughts and realizations are bullshit but some of the profound conclusions you come to under the influence of psychedelics are laughable and absurd in a normal mind state. You will end up chasing a bottomless, confusing, hypocritical, draining, bullshit pit or 'rabbit hole' if you take it all too seriously.

That being said these substances should be respected and there can be very valid lessons to extract from them.

As far as the other part do you not believe that our lower cognitive functioning is being activated by these substances? Think about the physical effects: dialated pupils, clammy hands, gi discomfort, nausea and other physical effects are all signals to your self that you ate something you shouldn't have. I think the classic bad trip in many cases is probably due to lower functioning brain parts being overwhelmed and giving your higher brain levels false alarms of imminent injury or death.

 

but then what is this 'everything' you are talking about if its really 'everything except war, governments, and greed'? it is not 'everything', you see. you are not in harmony with everything if you are opposed to it at the same time, do you see the direct folly of this?

everything is everything. greed is nuclear fusion in the sun . . . government is anthills scurrying about, alive with movement . . . war is the battering of waves upon the surf.

you have some ways to go before the everything is harmonious look with the higher eye, not with the mind and thoughts of the one who has opinions, but with that eye which sees and is timeless

increase dose, and breathe

 

No, trust me. I have been to that point. I am not bullshitting you sir. Maybe your experiences are different than mine, but what I felt from my trip was the negativities of the world tugging on me and the war and bullshit pulling on my mind and the only thing that brought me out of it was the thought of the harmony of nature and human love and affection. I understand your point about the natural greed, war, and government. But what I saw coming from humans was disgusting.

The "themes" of my trips always change but the mostly revolve around unity of everything and then I end up feeling like god and then I come down and everything becomes complex again.

 

I never really try to think on psychedelics, but to explore. It's like ''Alright, I just took this very powerful drug. Obviously it changed the world around me and the way I view reality. How about I use this state of consciousness to slow down my world and to examine every single flow of energy throughout the universe''. Life is such a fast and speedy flow of energy. Sometimes we do things we don't even know we do. Psychedelics allow me to enjoy every single object and emotion I think and see as a spiritual connection.

Personally, psilocybin was always more of a ''spiritual'' feeling compared to LSD for me. Psilocybin felt more relaxing, allowing me to just chill and have a good trip. LSD felt more of a happy type of feeling, with an increase in visuals(compared to psilocybin) and an increase in energy; it also had a lot more of the ''exploration'' effect, as I explained above. Though of course, I've had awesome spiritual experiences on both.

 

Querilla Bedlam:

I've never felt sick from them. I can't get enough of them.

This is true, which is why not everyone has to eat them. Only the people who want to.

 

I get so deep when I do shrooms man.

 

This thread is making me hungry.

 

I just get into the moment and let it wash over me. I don't feel exactly enlightened or something and neither I do get more 'anti' feelings. I just kind of accept everything and usually I spend a very small part of the trip pondering and thinking deep on specific matter. I just wander around in my mind and the music and have some pointless but entertaining interactions with the people around me.