Do You Haiku?

Discussion in 'Writers Forum' started by Deidre, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    It's 5-7-5 in the original Japanese
     
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  2. McFuddy

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    Get the fuck outta here.

    ...

    Is it really?
     
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  3. newbie-one

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    ^ It's the famous Matsuo Basho "Fuck My Job" haiku
     
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  4. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    lol
     
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  5. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    LMAO!

    Here you

    Deru yanke!
    kankei nashi ya
    --kuso kurae!


    Of course this is Senryu haiku----unless shit can be justified as a seasonal word. And if Basho said this, some might wonder if he had Yakuza connections, or at least a crude Osaka or other Kansai accent...
     
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  6. Meliai

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    lol! good answer
     
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  7. McFuddy

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    Am I the only one who didn't get this?
     
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  8. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Nani ga...
    anata wa nihongo
    wakarania no ka na


    (What...
    Don't you speak Japanese?) ;-)

    (And the Japanese actually works out to another senryu haiku, as each Japanese letter (consonant-vowel, vowels, and one single nasal consonant) equates to a single consonant--------see I told you Japanese was natural for haiku!)
     
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  9. Meliai

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    Matsuo Basho was a famous haiku...ist....are they called haikuists?...he wrote haikus
    several centuries ago
    and therefore did not actually write a haiku called fuck my job

    goddamnit mcfuddy, it isn't funny if you have to explain it.
     
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  10. Deidre

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    5-7-5 is traditional and my fave, but 3-5-3 has also been acceptable to the haiku masters.
     
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  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    And I don't know if Newbie-one was actually jesting off of my posts, probably half-way back in this thread, but I compose haiku in Japanese, especially because it allows for a natural flow of all the elements required (seasonal word, etc) and for me they tend to be a lot deeper especially since Japanese leaves room for more implication and subtlety. I find them to allow more of a sensual experience that can be seen and interpreted in multiple ways---which is part of the art of haiku to the Japanese.

    I never cared too much for English haiku until recent years when I realized that they tend to be more existential in nature (just like I love listening to French female singers who sing these depressing, yet sexy, songs of existential pain and addictions to pleasure... (Before I just liked French female singers because they sounded so sexy, especially those that carressed and whispered and breathed into their microphones---actually in both cases those are the ones I like...)). The style of English haiku tends to be senryu--which does not contain all the elements of standard haiku, but they are existential, even in Japanese, and often funny. Senryu are typically joke haikus.
     
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  12. McFuddy

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  13. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    Don't be sad, Batman
    You can haiku if you try
    Don't let Gotham down
     
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  14. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    The point I forgot to make is that I would share haiku, but it wouldn't follow the 5-7-5 format---because it was translated from Japanese----so I would point out that it is proper in the original Japanese.
     
  15. McFuddy

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    Too busy solving
    Murder, crime, and punishment
    To compose for you
     
  16. McFuddy

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    Lost my grapnel gun
    Can't get up to the roof top
    Call me an uber
     
  17. McFuddy

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    Haha and with that I retire my career as a poet.
     
  18. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    Show us whatcha got. :)
     
  19. McFuddy

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    Ok I lied :tearsofjoy:

    Jingle bells, Batman
    Sells all his fancy gadgets
    Now he doesn't eat alone

    Haha I crack myself up. Missed my calling. Maybe one day I'll try a subject less... Predictable?
     
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  20. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Ok, here is a song by L. (Raphaele Lanadere) , Mescaline, singing about how she wants to be the Mescalline, the poison, the SM muse, (etc.), in an all-consuming, addictive, destructive, obsessive, dance-of-sobs relationship with her lover... (But my French is not that good--mainly from summers spent in Paris and Nice--so I may not always interpret it quite right, but...)

    Je voudrais etre
    Ta muse SM,
    Ta mescaline,
    Ton obsession,
    Je voudrais etre
    Ta seule boheme,
    Tes fleurs, ton spleen,
    Ou ton poison.
    Rester muette
    Et souveraine...


    OH!!!! You meant haiku!!! Well------I guess its been a while since I've posted to this thread---let me pull some out...
     
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