do you smoke?

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by lithium, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. bokonon

    bokonon Senior Member

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    Started a new job today and get this: You have to surrender your tobacco/lighters/matches at the front desk before entering the factory! And it's not like a firework factory or anything like that either. Crazy, no?

    It's not a strict rule and I imagine most people don't do it, but it was mentioned so we'll see!
     
  2. Cerebus

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    Considering one of my favourite sayings (thanks Stephen Fry) is "Now get out of my way before i set fire to you.", i'd be really upset to have that happen to me.
     
  3. Zooth

    Zooth Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    now i agree on banning smoking in some public places, as i dont like the smell, but it shouldnt be banned when out in the fresh air, specially since thats the only place i can smoke me doc leaves in peace
     
  4. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    As someone who has the ban in place right now, i fuckin love it. I can walk into my local and not be engulfed in smoke, which is good for when they televise Hibs games. Resterautns are much more pleasent. The impact on business has been minimal (as its a blanket ban, people cant choose to go to smoking pubs), and people can just step outside.
     
  5. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    You're 16. You shouldn't even be in pubs.
     
  6. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    It's OK I'm sure he only ever goes in with his parents who order him a coke[​IMG]:tongue:
     
  7. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    I smoke and I cant wait for the ban I really cant - giving up will be so much easier when im not surrounded by smoke!!!
     
  8. shirley

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    I think most non-smokers will agree with me here..

    I don't care about people who smoke, but i don't personally want to get it in my lungs. Just smoke outside and all will be happy.
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    We have a smoking ban here in Arkansas, it just started late this year. It's kicking my ass. Cannot smoke in restaurants, public property, etc. I do smoke at home, and on campus here in college... but, it's terrible... like L.A. Matthews said... you can't sit in a coffee shop and smoke while you write.
     
  10. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    My age and legality of my drinking has nothing to do with the question at hand,
     
  11. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    It has everything to do with the question at hand. You shouldn't even be in the pubs to begin with, so what right do you have to complain about the smoke? None, because you're not even allowed there...You've only just become old enough to smoke.
     
  12. shirley

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    Hey you can go in pubs when you're 14 in most places and you can smoke at any age you want.. you just can't buy fags till you're 16.
     
  13. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Actually, it's illegal to go to a pub (that doesn't serve food) under the age of 18. If there is food being served, you must have a special smoking-area seperate. Otherwise, it is illegal to go to a pub under the age of 18.

    And yes, you're right, you can be any age you want to smoke, but the actual buying of cigarette's is legal. It is up to the seller to decide whether to serve you, and if they serve you when under the age limit, they will get a fine, not the buyer.
     
  14. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    I've been known to, but I'm not entirely opposed to a smoking ban, as long-term passive smoking can be quite detrimental to the health of bar staff. A better solution would be impoved ventilation systems and extractor fans though, that would solve the problem of second hand smoke without the need for a ban. It would, however, be rather costly I expect....
     
  15. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    I hope there will be some kind of exception in coffee shops. At the moment, a few coffee shops have a smoking area in a seperate room, but I don't see the need to have a totally smoke-free coffee shop...Smoking has been a long tradition of the Coffee Houses.
     
  16. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Different areas would also be workable I think. I certainly don't like eating in a smoky atmosphere, and greasy spoons that allow people to smoke over breakfast are never that pleasant....
     
  17. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    smoking seems to suppress my hunger. Also decent cigerettes like Marlboro, superkings and Camel,taste better than the cheap ones.
     
  18. Cerebus

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    Are people too young or too controlled by the media to understand the concept of freedom of choice? Have both smoking and non-smoking pubs, it's not a difficult concept, especially when 30% of the country chooses to smoke.
     
  19. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    I think one of the main factors behind the blanket ban was that it's because pubs and restaurants are workplaces, so the staff are being exposed to passive smoking as a consequence of their work. It does seem a bit draconian that pubs and restaurants are not even allowed to provide separate areas for smokers, but the issue of workers being exposed to health risks is a tough problem to get around so I can see the thinking behind it. It's not really as simple as a question of personal choice for restaurant and bar staff who perhaps might find it hard to find other work.
     
  20. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    Well, lets say I'm 27 and making my point, does the point change at all? No.

    It is a fallacy to say that because i shouldnt be in pubs that my argument for the smoking ban is invalid.
     
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