Do you think these parents should be charged?

If the parents are not charged they should receive a lifetime ban from seeking any medical attention for themselves.

 

How about dropping the bullshit for some good old fashioned common sense

Your kid is sick and dying; do you call 911, or Heaven 911


Hotwater

 

And this is a less logical back of my stance then yours?

 

I think if someone ever shots my husband or child, I won't call 911, I'll just sit there and pray.... it's what I feel is best.

 

They should be charged of course..
There is no excuse for their stupidity

 

IF you are told there is FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE something will kill your child immediately but they have a 100% chance to live another 8-12 months.... You are choosing an option that almost certainly will result in death, while knowing the outcome ahead of time. That is DEFINITELY manslaughter by the definition of just about every court in the country, I'm sure. Why then does the CHOICE to put them through that not constitute manslaughter while the CHOICE for a different solution does?

I bet if you asked the parents what they thought the chances of prayer healing their daughter were they'd say higher than 50%. 50% is a coin flip for christ sakes, yet it's a realistic number in todays world when it comes to many procedures.

Spencer, you of all people I would expect to see some logic in this matter beyond the sting of hearing about a child's death.

Surgery or prayer: Which one is guaranteed to work?

Neither. You simply choose to believe in one while these parents believed in the other. Kids die every day with or without medical attention, and nobody can argue that some don't die SOONER due to medical attention. It's a sad and horrible fact of life, but it's a fact none the less.

I'm done here. This is stoopid.

 

At least we agree on one thing.

 

Cheers.

 

Some of us do that ourselves, without instruction or punishment.

 

Call 911 because your kid has minor flu symptoms(which those mirror pretty well) and you probably would catch a ticket/charge for false reporting.

Not too sensical, is it?

 

Yes I agree, a silent prayer is the answer

With the proper music in the background of course....

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHJY0T9RsQ


Hotwater

 

The flu shouldn't last a month. And the flu isn't that "minor" to begin with.

 

BTW, I'm pretty sure he meant that as a metaphor.

 

does this sound minor to you? And also, no you would not get a citation for calling that in

"She had probably been ill for about a month, suffering symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness,"

for a month, minor?

go ahead and concede this arguement, you can't win them all

 

we don't know if she was exhibiting extreme symptoms of any nature that would sway the parents to take her to a doctor.

i don't know about you poeple, but i was never taking to the doctor for what they listed as symptoms.

the article said she probably had symptoms of this for a month...it doesn't state how severe in nature these symptoms were.

you people are taking this and snowballing it to say she had the most severe symptoms possible through one month. without any evidence of that being so. they didn't know what she had until her death. like i've said many times, it could have been anything with those symptoms they listed.

she could have just been feeling weak for the month, and throwing up every now and then - would you take your child to the doctor just for that? i know my parents didn't take me when i exhibited those symptoms when i was around this age.

again, those were just the possible symptoms of what she had that they listed in the article. never stated how severe they were.

 

Notice (makaveli) he never stated why my stance was not logical. Because there is really no denying that it is.... unless you are mentally ill or something.

Just admit you're wrong.


Fitz, I can at least understand your argument however.

 

Something very important to notice is that in the story it said the last time their daughter went to the doctor was when she was 3. That's 8 years of no medical attention. The girl presents symptoms of sickness for a month, very common ones, but for them to last a month makes it sign that something's wrong. I dont know their situation, I dont know how badly these symptons were showing. I just know that is not normal for a child to not have visited a doctor in 8 years and now that child is dead. The thing with health problems is that you never know, you never know if it's something serious or not, but we are talking about a kid, you just dont risk their life hoping it goes away. When you care you do something about it, if you are religious include the praying into the action being taken.
They thought it was serious enough to pray for recovery, why not take her to the hospital and pray along the way?
To me these parents didnt care enough for their child. I mean last night Jack kept crying and complaining, we noticed there was something wrong. John called his mom to take him for the night in case they needed to go to the hospital and today he was taken to the doctor, even though he seemed to be perfectly fine. It was just an ear infection. What I mean is that when parents see there's something wrong with their child, they do something about it, because you never know and is better to hear from someone qualified "that everything's ok" than live with the regret of letting your child die.

 

Very good points.

 

Thanks

 

I don't have to state why your stance is not logical, but in fact need to state why the other is AS logical.

To say that this is a matter of right and wrong is a fundamental blunder, and it says that things are completely black and white, which is not the case.

I don't need to concede shit nor do I need a "victory" in this argument. You all will receive the same mercy from others in trying times that you show them. And I hope that when the time comes that you are judged as you would judge that the irony and the lack of justice are translucent.