Does Eve know God more than Adam?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by greatest I am, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Yes, what a "dumb" saying. B/c we all know those who have absolute power (such as Hitler) did such great things w/ his power. Here are some other sayings that the originally quoted man made:

    *A wise person does at once, what a fool does at last. Both do the same thing; only at different times.
    *If some great catastrophe is not announced every morning, we feel a certain void. Nothing in the paper today, we sigh.
    *Great men are almost always bad men.
    *The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.
    *There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion.

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  2. greatest I am

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    If the saying is true then give an example of who has been corrupted absolutely.

    Has God been corrupted absolutely?

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    DL
     
  3. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    ......

    i dont know how you cannot understand this.
    it is a HUMAN saying. it applies to HUMANS.
     
  4. Crusader

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    Lucky if it's close at hand.
    The originality of life is such that we have to have some basic models on which to find a path. That is the meaning behind such myths and legends, and a precurser to other stories after the creation story.
     
  5. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    I believe I gave an example of someone corrupted by power, Hitler. Saddam, Kings and queens throughout history, the Church itself- read Dante's Inferno, there were a few popes in hell.

    Although it seems my answers will be ignored- refer to my last quote on the above post.

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  6. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    What human has ever had absolute power and was corrupted by it.
    Just one name will do.

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    DL
     
  7. greatest I am

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    You have not named any one who had absolute power.
    You only name little powers.

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    DL
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    how can such simple things elude you. you take everything so literally to the very smallest degree. that is no way to live life. people write metaphorically, to enhance literature.
    here was the saying.

    "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

    ok it's a nice little saying, short and sweet and expresses a point.
    now what if it went like this.

    "power corrupts, although those that have more power are going to be more corrupted than those with relatively less power"

    not the same is it? damn man, use your imagination a little. half of the truths in life are going to go right over your head if you read every little thing word for word.
     
  9. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Where? I thought it was a talking snake that told us that. Do you consider it a reliable source? If you do, I've got some stock in a Nubian papyrus factory I'd like to sell you, based on a hot tip from a Sumerian puff adder.

    As for absloute power corrupting absloutely, Lord Acton, the source of that quote, was talking about human governmental power, not omnipotence. Absolute power is governmental authority without institutional limitations, e.g., the "absolute" monarchs of seventeeenth century Europe. And I'd be hard pressed to think of exceptions to his "rule"--Ashoka and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, maybe.
     
  10. greatest I am

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    Perhaps.

    As to who said we would be as Gods, check at the end of genesis 3.

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Yeah, it was the snake (aka Satan?). If you believe anything a snake tells you, you're really setting yourself up for problems.
     
  12. greatest I am

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    No such thing as talking snakes.

    Genesis 3-22

    And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever

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  13. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I'm not finding that. The passage you cited suggests that to know good and evil is to be like a god (become as one of us), not to "know God". The snake was Eve's source of the information. God confirmed that the man had acquired one godlike power, but had not acquired another--immortality. "Considering that Eve listened to the snake, and it turned out badly for both her and her husband, how superior was she? Knowledge of good and evil didn't seem to get them ahead. They both ate the fruit, and God is worried that "the man has become like one of us..."
     
  14. evil i 13

    evil i 13 Senior Member

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    Lilith had it goin on. Eve was stupid. Ya don't listen to talking snakes, unless you're on some really good L. In that case do whatever ANY reptile says to.
     
  15. greatest I am

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    Your first comment is semantics and I will ignore it but as to your comment about us not being further ahead; Are you saying that man is not better off with knowledge of good and evil.

    If so then name any topic or issue that we could discuss that cannot be quantified by good and evil.
    I think that you would have a hard time finding any. No one else has and I have asked often.

    Without knowledge we are as smart as cows not knowing much of anything.

    Is this what you want to be?

    Regards
    DL
     
  16. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Re the first comment: the difference between knowing god and being like a god is hardly a "semantic" quibble. Re the importance of knowledge of good and evil, I see it as a benefit-cost tradeoff. And the important point is there is no scriptural evidence that Eve acquired any more of this knowledge than Adam, which was the assertion that started off this thread.
     
  17. greatest I am

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    The Bible does not say so. I know this.
    My question was more to see if my premis of women having less need to know because they already had the knowledge was the reason so few search.

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    DL
     
  18. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    The answer is no.
     
  19. peacechicka1

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    Men and women should lead together. I dont think one has more knowledge over another. But yet, there are a lot of people out there, but it's what I would like to think.
     
  20. greatest I am

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    You are of course correct.

    The thing is, I think they do not participate as much as men in these debates and discussions and until they do, men will not get the effect of their wisdom and continue to think they are on the right tract.

    Women have to stand as tall as men or men take advantage. So come on ladies get off your rumps. In the global sense that is.

    regards
    DL
     

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