Does God Exist?

god is love. And love is god.

 

If only it were that simple, the thing is this concept is used to influence public policies and issues, to the point of it even being on the back of my dollar bills.

Unicorns are a concept too yet they are not on currency nor is blood shed in their name.

 

^ agree. not so irrelevant when there are violent extremists set on imposing their ideas on others.

 

Nor hospitals built.

 

Is that supposed to be a counter argument?

No hospitals need to be built in the name of unicorns because as I said no blood is being shed in the name of unicorns.

Seriously though, If you're talking about illness and what not, do you honestly think God is a necessary component for a hospital to function? You really don't have the faith in humans themselves to want to cure each other of disease and illness? Similarly do you think there would be a dramatic shift in currency if we removed the word God from it?

 

i see no indication to require the nonphysical to be limited to our minds. it may very well be however, largely irrelivant to what our culture has come to value. it is also a matter beyond the means of certainty. supposing even such means were to exist. the possibility remains of a god like being, unrelated to anything any belief has ever imagined. should a god of some kind choose to exist, this is far more likely to be the case.
by the simple 'mathimatics' of the infinity of the unknown, and anything presumed to be known, the greater its detail, being an ever narrower, and thus less probable, slice of that infinity. or, infinity -1 as the case might be.

if a god exists or doesn't, still it cannot be held accountable for what one person does to another, not matter how loudly they might claim the possible existence of such a god, to excuse their doing so, for it does not.

 

The only reason any person believes in god is simply because they were taught to do so by their parents/guardians/teachers.

 

Yes that is a very succinct statement - we are conditioned by our environment, beliefs change with time and location.
Religions have their stories of what God is and does to use as a control system.

God is self-created or Absolute and is only known by itself to itself; something which cannot be understood by the mind. That is why we have to attain Enlightenment to answer the ultimate question.

 

The ultimate question ... Is their an omnipresent deity?

Latin "Omni" meaning "all".

99.9% of believers I have asked: "Why do you believe in god? have answered: "Because the bible "says so." And I go: "But the bible also says: "If your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. Would you do that?"

Then they usually go: "You don't understand. Go study the bible."

 

[SIZE=9pt]Is there an omnipresent deity?[/SIZE] – Enlightenment is the answer - a permanent state of infinite consciousness

Religions cannot provide answers – and use platitudes like “You will find out when you die”. Buddhists speak about Enlightenment but don’t have anybody around to testify to it – and sometimes hand out phrases like “you can attain the state in several lifetimes”.

The only way to the ultimate truth is to attain Enlightenment in this lifetime , however there are only a few and they are usually ridiculed by people who know nothing about the subject only what they have read. Anybody who states that they are Enlightened should be able to provide a path for you to get their – if they can’t I would not trust them.

Here is a new book written by somebody who does testify to the state – and can provide a path for anybody to attain the state.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Meditate-Spiritual-Meditation-Techniques-ebook/dp/B00RKA2SSU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1420070033&sr=1-1&keywords=francis+taylor

 

but not the only reason to believe we are not the end all and be all of existence. either individually, nor as a species.
not the only reason to believe things we can't see might exist.

what we create by how we act, IS far more important than what we do or do not believe. far more important to what we live in now, and unlikely to be any less important to any existence before or after.

 

This may count for the majority these days but not for every theist by far. It is a generalisation.

 

Once you add any of the other "omni" qualities such as omnibenovolence and omnipotence, then the deity becomes illogical.

So with that said, the question of an omnipresent deity is not really that crucial to me. If we only consider the quality of omnipresence, then God perhaps becomes at best more or less like the concept of "Gaian Mind" the idea where the Earth as a whole has a mind, which has a regulating quality about it.

I value logic and I'm content with the natural laws persisting on their own without needing to invoke a disembodied sentient deity on top of that.

 

I feel like pointing out the obvious and say pretty much everyone values logic. It's not like when someone happens to be a theist or has faith in an organized belief they don't value logic (anymore)

 

You can't deny that many theists will place faith above logic.

 

I believe in the god of benevolence. The one that keeps humans safe from horrible accidents. From monstrous natural catastophies. The one that guards against little children being harmed. The one that has insured equatable and humane societies around the world. The one that makes sure that ALL are safe and secure in their lives. Yeah, that one. Any other would just not be right.

 

Some, and not even on all subjects. So that easily creates a wrong oversimplification. Even if they do so in certain cases they still do not shit on logic.

 

I disagree. But we 2 have been over this several times so I won't bother to expand why God does not have to be evil/not right/false if He doesn't intervene in physical reality

 

Lol nowhere did I state theists "shit on logic."

 

Well, that was my wording of course. Sorry, I thought you would get it that it just means 'don't value logic any less in other matters'