Does supporting your governments military...

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  1. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    :2thumbsup:
     
  2. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    The idea that a lot of them were treated like shit is mostly over-blown...bs propaganda from war mongers. I pity them myself

    Modern war movies are also essentially propaganda for the war machine

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/hollywood-and-the-pentagon/

    "The American Army's intrusion in Hollywood war films may surprise some. In fact, the U.S. Army secret services have had close ties with American filmmakers for several decades. The movie Top Gun, for instance, was filmed with the support and approval of the U.S. Army. There is even a special bureau, the Film Liaison Office, that oversees these issues for the Pentagon and the Capitol. It has a clear mission: studying the scripts of American war movies, deciding whether to offer them support or not, depending on their interest for the country's military leaders.":(
     
  3. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    So that crazy church that protests and pickets at veteran funerals is just media propaganda?

    Westboro Church or something ...
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Personally, I think it is.

    I don't think he was referring to that, though.
     
  5. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Westboro baptist? Naw, they are just nucking futz
     
  6. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    For your question, the reason is that the Israeli public's existence is always at stake, and we depend on the military to guarantee that existence.

    ...and as for your comment. You have every right to state whatever you want. What you are stating may still be very very stupid.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I wonder why that is?
     
  8. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    lol I thought I read fucking nuts.. I was going to type nucking futz as a reply but I see you already did so :)

    And fwiw.. they are fucking nuts!!!
     
  9. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    I know you have an opinion. Please share it.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Most of the hatred directed towards Israel by neighboring countries has been provoked, but since the US government and the media (which is controlled by people with allegiance to Zionism) are biased towards Israel, the Palestinians/Muslims are always the "evil aggressors," while the Israelis "just want to live in peace." I am mostly referring to the Israeli government and not necessarily the people, yet the mentality that many Israelis have, many of which support Zionism, is a huge part of the problem.
     
  11. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    Ya I'll agree with you. How-everrrr.. I will also say that at some point one side needs to make an attempt to absorb the pain. If Israelis feel wronged, why can't the other side do that?

    Btw with regard to the media allegiance to zionism. Yes thats correct, because Jews make up a large portion of the richest Americans. Look at NYC the financial capital - the largest real estate holders are Jewish. Money talks, and they control things. You can bet your ass they have very close ties to their mother land. Jewish mafia exists in nyc.
     
  12. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    I think the Jewish thing is a complex issue. Yes, Jews are very represented (proportionally over-represented by numerous measures) in the corridors of power. But they aren't the only group meddling in the Middle East and pursuing exploitative politics.

    I remember meeting a very influential Jew a while back, and to be honest, he was about the most anti non-Jewish person you could ever imagine meeting. An absolute shitball, and the epitomy of the stereotypical "evil powerthirsty Jew".

    But I've also met a few Jews who are very normal, with normal jobs and outlooks. Its a shame when they get tarred with the same brush as vicious Zionist maniacs.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    ...because Muslemz are jealous of hot sexy Israeli girls are. Duh.
     
  14. bird_migration

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    Having spend a considerable time in Israel and having met many Israelis around the world, I can add that most Jews are very normal people, with normal outlooks and a longing for peace instead of warmongering.

    And Palestinians as well for that matter, although I haven't spend that long in Palestinian territories (Westbank).
     
  15. RetiredHippie

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    I support my troops. If it wasn't for them I'd be speaking either Japanese or German. I also support my Allies troops.
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    So you will always support your troops because they were on the good side in a world war more then 60 years ago?
     
  17. Gongshaman

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    Not so sure we were as much the 'good' side after Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden. :(
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Yes, the good side is always subjective but I ment the good side from his and of course simply the western perspective. I mean I'm glad there was an allied army force battling the nazi's and fascists as well but how relevant is all that with forming an opinion and/or lending support to total different wars and military conflicts 50 years later right..
     
  19. Gongshaman

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    I gotcha, just wanted to add that there were, in my view at least, unnecessary atrocity's that diminish the idea that it was an entirely noble effort.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Yes, even without the committed atrocities by allied forces it still can be argued that it was an entirely noble effort (the future economy, international trading). That still does not make it entirely opportunistic though. But definately not entirely noble either.
     

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