Does the USA have a responsibility to help the Iraqis?

ISIS my force US involvement given they have resentment and blood grudges for toppling Saddam and pushing them out of power only to be oppressed by the shi'ittes.



All I can say is people in the Islamic faith need to learn how to forgive the USA for their mistakes.

The Islamic faith's immaturity in various extremist sects are just as much to blame as the USA's pro-invasion strategy.

To me personally on a moral stance, it's a neutral moral situation Balbus. Being neutral the USA owes nothing, but will react based on the present threat of danger.

If there is another terrorist attack by ISIS, you bet the farm we're going back.

 

What do you mean?
I notice a blindness to any other reality, but immaturity?

 

In the sense that the faith goes through a period where it's believers get stuck in ridged ideology, and intolerance to the point of violent purging wars.


Christianity had the Spanish Inquisition, various witch hunts, and war against scientific advancement. They also had the Crusades....the faith of Christianity grew up generally speaking.

Islam is just entering it's bloodbath for purity stages.

 

Mmm, well that is a deep question. I am not sure as a 'body' Islam is suffering from that. Neither the majority. Certain so-called practioners are certainly.

 

Oh no, the whole Islamic faith is splintered over the interpretation of a righteous power structure of the Islamic faith.

In a nutshell that's what drives the Sunni, Shi'itte, and Kurdish feuds...it's snowballed now because people are avenging deaths of loved ones at this point and they forgot the origin of the dispute.

When you got each of those groups accusing the other of shaming Islam, and that the faith advocates killing "fake Muslims" you get the violent outcome we see right now.

Now the west is caught up with this because of bad foreign policy. But also because there is a lot of anger from the east because propagandist terrorists are scapegoating the west to explain their regional wealth gap issues, and also when innocents started becoming casualties it gave fuel to propagandists.


The result is ISIS...unfortunately.


(Sidenote: I don't get why followers of an abrahamic faith would name themselves after an Egyptian God, seems like blasphemy)

 

There are over one and a half billion Muslims around the world.
How many do you think are killing each other due to being Sunni, Shi'itte, Kurdish or neither?


http://rt.com/news/170652-jihadists-destroy-mosques-iraq/

They are killing anybody they feel like, and destroying Sunni and Shi'itte sites.

"But also because there is a lot of anger from the east because propagandist terrorists are scapegoating the west to explain their regional wealth gap issues, and also when innocents started becoming casualties it gave fuel to propagandists"

So ISIS are really just concerned about a wealth gap? O.O

 

I nutshelled what's going on, so obviously there are other details at large here.

And while fighting is happening only in certain areas at present, you bet all the other countries are watching what's happening for a domino effect.


It started mainly in Egypt, then Libya, then Syria, and a few outbursts of violent protests in Turkey, and then Afghanistan and Iraq kinda flare up again here and there.


But yes a lot of these outbursts in all of these countries has to do with basic civil unrest and the populations having their own kind of French Revolution.

The West is partly blamed because of past historical backing of regimes that were oppressive to the minority classes. In past decades, the USA pretty much settled for maintaining stability in various regions and countries if it meant some of our businesses were secured business ventures on those countries.


The USA's stance is that the phase of the country being oppressive is not something the USA should get involved with. The locals have to have a successful uprising and go through their own process, while in the meantime we just want the resources and stability by whatever means because it impacts our domestic policy (oil prices, stock market, food prices etc.).

^That isn't seen that way by many locals and those who have joined ISIS or groups like it.