Donald Trump

Why do you consider Hillary a criminal, IRQ? I'm not a fan in any way but to say Trump is a better candidate to spend your vote on.... not sure either.

 

Trump's latest distortion of reality is to declare Bill Clinton a person who abuses women, even though he has never been accused of being with any woman who wasn't over 18, and all of them have admitted to consenting to having sex with him. Of course, Trump's core supporters will take him at his word. He says this makes Hillary the anti-female vote.
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Care to elaborate? These are some pretty big statements and they beckon some backing. At least help other people "see things as they truly are."
I don't love Hillary either...

 

Because she wants to take away privacy and freedom of speech on the internet. Basically she wants to violate the consituion that makes her a criminal. Obama is also a criminal, trying to pass laws without the house or senate approval; that is treason and just about one of the worst crimes one can commit

 

It really needs to be trump, I'm scared of the other republicans ... they aren't all the same. This is what I mean when I say "fuck your party".

I don't identify with any party, only a particular type of ethic. The best I can hope for is someone with ethics close enough to my own, and I think most people who read my posts know about what my ethics are.

I'm pro choice when it comes to abortion (which really isn't a big issue as one might think, they can't really ban abortion the law won' allow it); but privacy and freedom of speech and the right against unwarranted search and seizure trump the abortion issue (pun somewhat intended)

 

What do you think of Rand Paul?

 

Seems to support privacy and freedom of speech, and stands against censorship and mass surveillance, so he might be a good one.

There's a couple republicans running though that i'm scared of, I can't remember their names right now, I'd have to look them up, I might remember the names if it was mentioned

 

I know how you think and some of your ethics, but I have no idea how you stand on environmental issue or the life on this planet not including the human animal.
Factory farming, etc.
Not that I know if Hillary gives a damn either or Obama for that either or anyone, really for that matter. I know it is not popular to care about these things, but I don't care that it is not. I care.
I guess I am looking for a candidate that will do the least damage on this issue.

 

I support strong recyling programs and clean energy. I think more of the discretionary spending needs to go towards science, transportation, and energy (which also falls in the realm of science). Take maybe 5% of the spending from the military (and maybe take some from the N5A as well) and put it into science, and energy, and transportation, in no particular order, except that science should be the top priority, because you need science to develop clean energy tech. More education funding would be nice too.

not all democrats are the same
not all republicans are the same

things just aren't that simple at all.

I don't identify with any party, but you might describe me as a leftist libertarian, but even then things aren't quite simple; things aren't only two dimenstional (and certainly not one dimensionl, i.e left/right spectrum) ... more like a twisted maze like puzzle.

 

Yes, true, but at the moment we are light years away from that it seems.
I always support science for solutions.
I edited my post, too, while you were quoting it probably.

 

yeah i edited mine too, only because I had to add a few things I left out that I believe were worth mentioning.

 

If the next pres is a republican, and he has an opportunity to pick people for scotus then roe v wade could possibly be overturned.

 

I like all people have their own interests in mind, and the issue of abortion simply doesn't affect me. Don't be distracted by these irrelevant things. They can't outlaw abortion, lots of republicans have claimed they would ... it can't be done, they would have done it by now already if that were the case. This is part of the reason that this issue doesn't affect me...I'm sure If I needed an abortion I would still be able to get one (well, I'm male I couldn't get an abortion, but could still in some circumstanes need the service)

Idk, it's too early to tell, but it's definitely not to early to start studying these people and what they're about. Don't wait unitl election day to do yor research

 

You still have not answered me about the abuse in factory farming, and the shitty lives so many creatures are given by so called human beings......to me anyone who would torture an animal is not a human being, and that is my main interest here.

 

I think that's more the fault of capitalism, rather than any particular party. Capitalism focuses on profits, small independent farmers can't make a living anymore thanks to corporate industrialized farming, where they do it on massive scales, all in the name of profits. I do feel guilty eating meat, or animal products in general (something about cooking meat that bleeds, and was a living creature doesn't set right with me), though I'm not vegan or vegetarian, simply because it's too hard to get enough protein that way.

In capitalism, the sole purpose of a business' existence is to turn a profit (and this is why you have cold callers and useless marketing). IMO, the only reason a business should exist is because it provides a useful service or commodity to the people and nothing else, otherwise there is no purpose for that business to exist.

 

I think the point is that Hillary remains to be married to a serial adulterer contradicts all the principals of being the feminist she solicits herself to be.

 

She (nor any other modern woman) owes us an explanation of her marriage, whether it's an open marriage or whatever. Your statement shows that you completely misunderstand the cornerstone of feminism.

If the Clintons claimed to be traditional, conservative, right winger Christian monogamists, they might possibly owe the public an explanation of why he doesn't appear to live that way. But they don't, no none of it is any of our goddamn business.

 

But our business is their business though right ... ALL of our business?

 

I'm not going to get any deeper into law enforcement issues with you.

Hillary doesn't have time to care who you fuck, or when or why. She's just not that into you.

 

Donald Trump has a serious and credible chance of becoming the new president of America. You should all be delighted with this? You may not like all his views but freedom of speech is still alive.

Are you going to vote for trump?