Mathematics has been around well for.... umm...... ever. I don't care who or what you are you can't change the fact that 1 of something plus one of another, now make a group of 2. 1+1=2 Even if "god" was real as Christians believe, even he/she/it could not change the fact that 1+1=2 We have just learned how to use math in the last few thousand years that's all. The Maya were masters of math, so much that all their astrological predictions made thousands of years ago, like eclipses and such, are only off by 33 seconds. Their predictions are only off by 33sec.!!!!! The entire existence as we know it is just the most complex mathematical equation of all. It's call PI. (There is a movie called PI also that you all should watch, great movie) The way our cells divide. DNA. Planetary orbits. Seasons. Eco systems. Elements. Protons/Anti Protons. Fusion. Everything is a chaotic, but synchronous mathematical equation. Like a fractal. This universe is an infinite fractal of........ infinity. Think about this. There were single cell organisms that each one had it's own identity. It's own "name". Well that single cell organism met a few other single cells and they realized that if they worked together equally, they could create a community that would prosper and it would be easier to survive. They started off with small colonies they named Ameba, and over the years the colonies or systems got bigger and more technologically advanced. They had to defend themselves from attacks from other killer cells they called "virus" and cells that wanted to disrupt the harmony in there world, they called these cells "cancer". After millions of years of working out the kinks these single cells evolved into each have it's own personality or purpose in this system or, "life form", it has created. White blood cells (Marines, Navy), Red blood cells (Truck drivers, Construction workers), the system became so complex it was kind of like a huge space craft called a "life form" and these life forms searched through there new "space" that was being seen for the first time through windows they call "eyes". Soon while this colony of millions of cells are traveling through space in there life form they come across another life form just like them. It's a ship just like theirs but it's a different color! Oh no! This means other cells have started a colony too. This could be a threat. The colony of cells with the white ships decide they need more ships so they don't lose the war against the cells with black ships, so they hurily produce and reproduce more and more life form ships that will of the same line and so do the cells with black ships. Lets call these ships a name shall we? Umm... Lets see, lets name them humans. Yeh thats a good name. So the cells on both sides have produce a great army each having millions of humans ready for battle. The battle begins and has endured for a very long time, so long it fact that they cells have transcended there individual conscious to one collective consciousness and the humans now think as one entity. The cells have became one super cell. The long history of the cells struggle is forgotten as the human only believes it is an individual, not created of many ancient individuals. Now you all know how humans created systems called society and blah blah so, whats next? Now we represent the life form earth. The earth is alive wouldn't you agree? We are the earth. The dirt beneath you, got up and walked around so to speak. We are just the earths eyes, arms, legs, nose, ears etc. etc. and we're evolving just like a blood borne pathogen evolves into an airborne pathogen. Viruses mutate to be able to leave their planet or human and travel to another and wreak havik on it. Sound familiar? NASA. We are in the middle of a mutation. We will colonize other planets, and then more and more. After billions of years we will colonize galaxies. Then there will be galaxy wars, and this history continues FOREVER into the fractal called infinity. I'm pretty fukin nuts I know..... So we started at the cell and went up, but lets start at the cell and work our way back. What makes up a cell? Mainly h2o, and molecules like proteins and lipids and carbohydrates. Weird huh? Normally we think of life as something made up of more life, but a cell is not made up of any life. It's just a complex mathematical chain of amino acids and such. Kinda takes the mystery out of life when you realize "life" is just a weird system of chained together molecules. But what is a molecule? A mathematical equation of certain atoms bonding together to make a new system of multiple atoms called a molecule. What is an atom? Basically certain frequencies of electrical charges. Apparently space, isn't really space at all. Scientist say that space as we call it is just a large mass of "something" that is so small it just passes right through us. So space is really mass that makes up the majority of the 3 dimensional universe. Like saying a cell is made of molecules and molecules are made of protein which is made of atoms which is made of protons, neutrons and electrons which are made from quarks and leptons and gluons hold the quarks together. So you keep going to you get to Planck Scale. Scientist say that if you could shrink yourself small enough you would actually see that there are tunnels in space that you could crawl through. Imagine that. This is entanglement. We are all connected on sub quantum levels. With enough practice you can send thoughts through "space", since a thought is just an electrical charge anyway.
isaac asimov wrote sci-fi books in the 1960's (?). His entire premise was that through mathematics you can predict almost everything in the future with 99.9% accuracy. my whole shtick is, isn't life just : Key ∞ = infinite v = variations of ∞ v Mathematics + ∞ v Physics + ∞ v Chemistry = ∞ v Life So... Mathematics on Earth + Physics of Earth + Chemistry of Earth = This Life of ours ??? anybody see where I'm going with this, if life is math and physics, presumably by mastering both we could manipulate both... and predict both.
It has already been done by the elite leaders of the world. *****WARNING******WARNING*******WARNING*******WARNING****** As per request by Mr. John Walker I issue the following statement. This is my personal believe and everytime from now on that I have a personal belief I will issue this warning because JohnWalker says that's what I gotta do. JohnWalker says I can't make posts implying I have a secret knowledge of the world and no one else does. I'm sorry guys that I was blessed with this commo..... I mean "secret" knowledge and I won't brag about having it anymore K?
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LoL. I couldn't even doubt that as paranoid or cynical. After 5,000 plus years of civilization we still live the same. besides technology and science, we still fight with our lovers, we still compete with others, we still question life with the same questions, we still drone out of bed for work, come back tired, sleep and repeat. On weekends, our idea of doing something with ourselves is trying to sleep with somebody. I wouldn't be surprised if a group of people just started recording our habits and applied it to the future generations of unborn peoples.
Ummm.... when you say "we" you mean the mindless cattle of the world right? You are in a thread called down the rabbit hole yet you find it hard to believe that mathematics is the "religion" so to speak of the elite. The elite don't compete because there is no competition. The elite don't question life, they make it up. "WE" still drone out of bed and go to work because thats what the elite tell you to do. On weekends the elites idea of a good time is formulating complex mathematical equations, discovering the algorithms of life and firguring out ways to manipulate it to their advantage or at least kidnapping the worlds brightest scientist and making them do it for them. Lets read your post backwards..... Based on your statements, YOUR idea of a good weekend is trying to sleep with someone instead of taking weekend college courses therefore, YOU are stuck having to drone out of bed to a slave job which makes you depressed and question life in turn you compete with humans instead of helping them which hurts your relationship with your lover, making you two fight and even with all the technology and science breakthroughs, you still live the same way after 5000 years of civilization. You got shit backwards now don't you? BTW it's not nice to join a hippie forum and start calling the people paranoid. Especially when you have a forum on the site called PARANOID? Oh and I divided your post into two parts for a reason. It's because the top half doesn't agree with the bottom half. Paradox?
Geez, I think I definetly dropped the ball. Your response did not match what I believed I was writing, excuse me for this. Let me reiterate what I was trying to say. MY opinion has nothing to do with getting laid or droning out of bed to go to work. My point is, we (we as in everybody that lives in civilization), has done this for thousands of years. It has never changed nor does it change. Besides shortening work weeks and giving rights to workers, we still live the same even after thousands of years. Therefore if we infer that we are limited creatures like all other creatures in the world, then we can be observed, studied, and have some really bright people establish a way to manipulate us. IN MY OPINION, they do not use some magical form of mathematics to do this, they use control over media, big business, and educational institutions. They did it with religion and church back then, they're doing it with money and corporations today.
oh and btw, i get along with my girlfriend fine! I'm jus saying that if you read works written hundreds of years ago, like decameron, don quijote, you realize they have the exact same problems as we do! It's almost like an epiphany when people living so long ago had such similar relationship issues. Also... You chastised me for being a slave... umm, I'm not the only one, millions of other people exist just like me. If you have found a better way, that isn't doing drugs and preaching on street corners with a bunch of your stoner friends, please share it with us. Us slaves don't like to be slaves.
Im sorry for my language, but how the fuck do you know? For future reference, please state very clearly that this is your opinion. Do not write your words implying that you have some sort of exclusive knowledge that nobody else has. My guess is as good as yours, and whether or not you are convinced completely of your opinion, you cannot pass it off as fact unless you have some intimate knowledge proving so. Such as being an elite, and excuse me for assuming, but I do not think you are.
Lets give this a quick run down: 1. You asked a question in a PUBLIC forum. 2. I answered your question with my personal belief. 3. The thanks that I recieved for being the ONLY person interested in your question was being called paranoid and cynical. 4. I, like any normal human, took offense to being called such things. 5. I then proceed to tell you what I thought of your post. 6. You then proceed to get obvioiusly angry and attack me with 3 different post. I put the series of events in order so that you couln't try and change the story around. That's how it happened. You are intitled to your opinion like everyone else, but that doesn't make it right to start disrepecting people. You have the right not to believe in christianity. But it doesn't make it right to join a christian forum and with your SECOND post, insult someone because of what they believe. You have the right not to believe in conspiracy. But it doesn't make it right to join a community with LOTS of people who believe in conspriacy and start calling them cynical and paranoid with your SECOND post. Need I remind you that your in a forum called MINDFUCK! This forum is not meant for literal disscusions of politics. It's for mindfucked conversations about mindfucked things. If you want literal discussion of politics, go join a democrat forum. I'd say the POSSIBILITY of and elite few mastering mathematics and using it to manipulate the world is proper discussion mindfucked individuals. I enjoy a good debate anytime. But when insults come into the matter, I'm DONE. You remind me of an impossibly shallow, closed minded senior citizen who doesn't believe anything that FOX NEWS doesn't tell him to believe. Now in response to your question: I don't know and maybe I should have reworded what I said a little. Maybe I should have said, "Possibly the elite have already done it" because I have no proof. With that, where is YOUR proof that I'm wrong? Or let me stoop to your level for a sec and ask like this...... How the fuck do YOU know??????? It was fun to watch you try and post calmly, only to read, and reread my post which obviously had some truth to it, since each post after that got more and more hostile. With each post you get more and more hostile and throw more insults like a child. Why? What's the REAL issue in your homelife that's bothering you? Why join a forum and start insulting people? You need to calm down guy. Lower your blood pressure. i'M iNsIdE yOuR mInD gUy.................
"I couldn't even doubt that as paranoid or cynical" That was my quote. Show me where I called anybody paranoid or cynical. I tried reading your response, but frankly I'm completely lost because I don't know why you were arguing with me. You agreed with me at first. Then I responded to your quote "It has already been done by the elite leaders of the world", and although I didn't implicitly agree, I thought what I wrote was in support of your statement. Afterwhich you tore into me. why? I'm not sure. As for your comical editing, I suggested you style your words to fit an opinion rather than a solid fact. Thats all. What is this common knowledge you are speaking of? That elites spend their free time solving mathematical equations, or that they are kidnapping brilliant scientists to do it for them? Hey Bud, since you like to follow my advice. Let me give you some more, lay off the conspiracy theories. They're bad for you. One more thing, I'd appreciate you leaving your words as is and not editing them. I'd prefer it if anybody interested in reading this thread could see the original words so they can better form their opinions.
Probably a lack of communication. I'm confused as well as you. This is headed nowhere good so..... Anyways back to entanglment and such MindFucked things. Peace out
No I haven't but THANKS! for the heads up! I just looked it up and it looks like something I have to read atleast once. Honestly I don't get to read a good book as much as I should. But i'm gonna make some time here soon. I'm completely out of the book scene right now so if you have anymore suggestions please do tell.
Got a pen...lmao I'm really into quantum physics/mechanics, but I'm especially into M-theory, although I fully realize there's not any empirical evidence. Glad I found this thread. Thumbs-up!