dragonflies

Yea, it's not that hard to differentiate between L and other psychedelics if you ask me. Someone sold me some "L" friday and so i tore off a fat piece and ate it... 2-3 hours later it's kicking in... fast forward 48 hours and I was still tripping. What a shitty weekend. Probably 5-meo-amt.

 

I still have doubts that bromo-dragonfly is on the market. It's very new. Some people have asked "isn't 7 years enough?" Well that *sounds* likely, but bear in mind that LSD was synthesized in 1943 and it took almost 22 years for it to be produced on the market.

I find it more likely that what you, or other people, took was DOM, DOI, DOB, or some other long-acting hallucinogen (although admittedly I don't think one could fit 3mg of a substance on blotter paper...).

I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm just trying to think about it logically. I could be more convictive with my argument if I knew more about the synthesis of bromo-dragonfly, specifically: (1) is the synthesis as difficult and involved as with LSD? [I can only assume yes], (2) does it require controlled precursor chemicals? (3) what kind of blotter paper could hold such large doses?

If these questions could be answered knowledgably, it would make things a lot easier. But for now I remain doubtful, but definitely interested. If bromo-dragonfly was indeed released to the market the government would immediately look for excuses to schedule it. That's pessimistic, I know, but it's how they've always done it. I just hope that, if it's released and it's safe in usual doses (like LSD and almost all other hallucinogens), that it isn't scheduled quickly (or ever).

Until I know more, I can only be doubtful about it being on the market, but... hopeful, if it becomes widespread. Does anyone have any more detailed information they can give involving this?

Edit: 2cesarewild, you're going to have to define "tripping," then, if it lasted for 48 hours. Were you having peak experiences and major hallucinatory and body activity (e.g. as with 2.5 hours into an LSD experience) for 48 hours? or did residual visuals not end until after 48 hours? Usually I will have mild visuals for 48-72 hours after taking LSD, but I would not consider it "tripping" per se. You may have just been experiencing LSD's after-effects.

 

That's what I've been telling people; they have most likely taken 5-meo-amt because it is so cheap and easy to get. That is most likely what I took. It's unlikely that they took anything DOxx without knowing a chemist.

Actually, drfly doses are almost as low as LSD dosages. The dosages ARE in the microgram range. You can also find a synthesis online, look around.

Hahahahaha not to sound condescending man but... I am what you would call "experienced" with a few different classes of drugs. I don't call the afterglow tripping. I tripped for forty eight hours. I don't know how much I ate, but it was thick ass cardboard like blotter, I probably ate anywhere from 5-10 hits. I was tripping so hard that when the lights went out, my mind drew a whole new room around me that looked real. That happened 12-14 hours after I dosed. 12 hours after that the world was still breathing in unison with me, the outside environment still looked drawn like a watercolor painting and I still had strange thoughts that made no sense. 12 hours after that I was in the same position and so on til Sunday night before I finally caught some z's. I dosed Friday night. When I woke up I was still having residual colors like during the come up of an acid trip. What I took was NOT lsd brother... When you've eaten the shit a bunch of times you know what it's like... this was not L. This experience wasn't fun and I feel like now I have to take a break from psychs, all cause some profiteer thought they could fool me. When the drugs take two or three hours to kick in, tastes bitter like research chemicals, and lasts even 24 hours when my friend took one hit... it's not L.

 

Alright, fair enough. I didn't know exactly how experienced you were with acid. Inexperienced people sometimes incorrectly call the afterglow "tripping," although it isn't (pleasant as it is).

Jeez, that's so strange... was this the same sized blotter as acid? What confuses me, though, is how blotter could hold any chemical in excess of about 1mg. Even if you took 5 hits of 5-MeO-AMT (assuming 1mg/tab), that's still a low dose compared to what you're describing. It's not impossible that it was bromo-dragonfly. I just can't really think of what else could fit on blotter like that, especially a drug with such a long duration. Weird.

You're right, though. What you most likely took was some obscure RC. The bitter taste is definitely an indicator of that, not to mention such a huge duration. I guess we can never know for sure. Sorry the trip didn't go well.

 

Yea I know where you're coming from- people always telling me "I was tripping sack off half an eighth of shrooms" ... It's just that your definition of hard tripping is relative to your experience. And yes, the afterglow does rock, especially with some fine marijuana rolled in a fat cigar.

This blotter was very thick... the kid said he laid it himself which makes me believe it was alpha o even more. It was the thickest blotter I have ever seen. It wasn't perforated, so I just tore off a fat piece. I thought it was around five hits, but 24 hours into my trip when I showed my friend he was in awe and was like dude that's probably more like 9 or 10 hits. I dunno I'll measure it tonight when I go home and let you know how big it was exactly.

Thanks bro, at least I am still here to talk about it. The thing is everytime I thought I might have been coming down, I would look behind one of my friends I was talking to and the whole room was a mess of smeared colors moving all liquidy everywhere then I'd look back and my friend's faces were glowing all kinds of colors sort of bouncing around off their bodies and I'm just like god when will it end...

No lie... getting lost in my friend's hallway and having a whole psychedelic room painted around me by my mind, was probably the most intense psychedelic experience i have ever had (besides a 2c-e overdose)... it was like being trapped in a small box but your surroundings look like a big altar room... I would move my hand to try to find a light switch and hit the wall, even with my head a couple times... that sure sucked.

 

Actually, I know of at least one european supplier of chemicals that recently started selling bromo-dragonfly, and in as far as me and my friends are concerned they are fairly serious (as serious as any company that specializes in "soon to be illegal" chemicals can be anyway), so it's definitely on the market although it's probably not very common (and the day it becomes common is the day they'll make it illegal).

/mludd

 

I got to try a low dose. 100 mics or so very interesting I am going to try higher soon. I knew dragonflies would migrate.

 

Things happen much faster these days. It is very possible that it is on the market in only 7 years. I know this because I sampled already.

 

and I have heard of 2-3 mgs of DOB and DOI on paper

 

just for the record, LSD was synthesized in 1938 and "DISCOVERED" in 1943.

 

2cesarewild:

You didn't take 5-meo-AMT buddy. What you took sounds something like a psychedelic amphetamine active in doses 1.5mg or more.

If you ate a 5- or 10- strip of such blotter you could have eaten 10mg or 15mg of DOB or DOI.

Stop fooling yourself into thinking its 5-meo-AMT or Br-Dragonfly because your experience sounds nothing like those.

And then again, don't be so quick to judge. If you eat a 10-strip of unknown quality blotter and trip for 2-3 days... you know that's not completely out of the question. I've eaten 7 hits of family fluff and tripped for 48 hours straight. I've taken LSD enough times to know the difference and this was most certainly STRONG and LOTS of LSD.

Onset times can also vary. Just because you bug out and end up not being able to handle the 10-strip you mindlessly popped in your mouth off a fresh batch, and then you have a long, bad trip, doesn't mean it's not LSD.

This just goes to show people should start with 1 blotter.... 2 MAX, off a fresh batch. RC worries aside, some of this shit is getting laid with a lot more LSD than others. There's no need to dive straight into a 3 day strung out bender.

Oh, and for the record... it's possible to fit up to 5mg of material into a normal 1/4" blotter if it's done carefully. Of course the more material you try to soak into each blotter, the worse it's gonna taste. However I know from experience that DOI blotters don't taste all that bad. Since DOC appears to be up-and-coming, and with a shorter onset time and more visuals than DOI, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of this stuff popping up on blotters soon.

If I were y'all, I'd give a little bit of blotter a quick taste-lick before I bought quantity. Then again, some good LSD blotters taste kinda funky too.

Regardless, I'd much rather get a 2-4mg dose of DOI, DOC, or DOB than a dose of Bromo-Dragonfly.

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I hope this post doesn't give greedy people any bright ideas...

 

Would this not result in an overdose requiring, eh, the amputation of both legs due to gangrene infection? Do you care to elaborate on why 2ce's experience couldn't POSSIBLY be b-dfly?

Two blotters would be the best place to start; even if it ends up being weak acid, atleast you'll have a little fun (and avoid having to tame "the fear" when you end up having to go to 8 hours of class or work tripping sack).

 

I have seen DOI on blotter as well about 2.5 mgs per piece. The bromo dfly i saw was on blotter about 100 mics a piece

 

Who cares what the fuck I took, it wasn't LSD. I just got word this weekend that it was apparently DOI, if it even matters.

This looks like the case.

I didn't fool myself into thinking anything. I speculated on what it could be, which is anything you can fit on blotter. Trips are largely subjective, but LSD has sort of a specific effect. The fact that it took hours to kick in, made me sick, gave me visuals that lacked detail, and made me feel like I chewed a thousand rolls just tells me it isn't LSD. I can't say for 100% sure wtf it was, but it's very obvious it's not LSD.

Uh, for some reason I *doubt* 7 hits made you "trip" for 48 hours straight if it was LSD. Unless of course you were doing some high quality squid, but if you were eating blotter, and if it was the jesus print (lol), you'd have ~125 ug a hit... A little under a milligram in total. I'd say the after effects could last for that long, but not the trip.

AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH... so many things wrong with what you just said. LSD doesn't take 2-3 hours to kick in then slowly build to a first peak for another 3-5 hours, during which time you feel like you ate a gigantic dose of speed. Bug out? Dude I chilled with my friends all weekend who don't dose, and didn't bug out about shit. I'd say I handled it pretty well being up for two days walking all around my city cause I had no car and not being able to stomach any food. I didn't mindlessly eat the ten strip, if it was LSD, these posts wouldn't be here. It wasn't LSD. BTW, There's no such thing as a bad trip for me.

The only reason I will start with one blotter from now on is because of RC's. Why do people constantly assume lsd blotters are laid with a lot of l on them? The strongest shit around will be ~125 ug a hit. Not a lot of LSD if you've been tripping for a bit.

All phenethylamines taste like shit, I'd say DOI is no exception.

Yea, cause I love having dull ass visuals with no detail at all, feeling poisoned, and not being able to sleep for a day. FFS I took one hit of the shit and was up for maaaaad long.

 

Bluedolphin Knows what he's talking about

Nomatter what you/we take now a days; we nolonger cannot assume anymore, that the only thing that is on blotters is LSD! Unless we actually know and trust or suppliers!


Dragonfly IS BEING sold now!
Becareful friend.
cheers

 

I know and trust the supplier of the doi. He was the one lied to though, and he hadn't tested the batch. Previously he had tried a small amount of a different batch that felt like L to him so he had no reason to suspect anything really.


All these research chemicals kind of made the lsd scene shitty, cause all these profiteering fucks hit the scene mislabeling what they sell. FFS, just sell it as what it is, people will still buy it.

 

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Mollyredmore was not wrong.

 

You're most definitely incorrect, sunsets.

I just purchased 1 mg (10 x 100 mic doses) of b-dfly DIRECTLY from the lab for $40 US. That's $4 a hit; if you think anybody's selling this shit for $0.40 a hit, you better think again.

 

THE ABOVE POST IS VERY BAD MISINFORMATION!

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HIGH DOSES OF THIS SUBSTANCE WILL DO TO YOU. IT IS THOUGHT TO BE VERY DANGEROUS AT HIGH DOSES. A DOSE OF 50 - 100ug's IS SAID TO LAST AROUND 24 - 36 HOURS. ANYTHING OVER 100ugs IS BEING CONSIDERED VERY DANGEROUS. PLEASE DON'T TEMPT FATE.

 

I guess quoting and responding to every single part of someone's post is the way to go on hipforums...

That was my point. People are trying to gather legitimate information about the effects of bromo-dragonfly and other compounds and you come on this board claiming you ate bromo-dragonfly (and then 5-meo-AMT) when you had no idea what it was the whole time. If you don't know, just say so.

LOL, you must hang with some tight brothers to know Jesus prints were 125ug. Guess what I never ate Jesus prints but I've eaten a few dozen other kinds of acid, as well as a couple dozen other kinds of psychedelics. I could care less if you believe me because it's obvious you pull all your information either off other rumor-milling message board threads and then pretend like you knew that on your own... or you just pulled it out of your ass.

Twisted my words a bit there... LSD can take 2-4 hours to reach a steady plateau level peak. That means you're not coming up anymore. Or it can take 45 minutes to an hour to be fully peaking. Perhaps you lack the experience to accept the fact that things affect different people differently, and the same person differently at different times. That is why I've had LSD trips last anywhere between 8 hours and two days. Dose, set and setting, sleep deprivation, and mindset are all factors which can significantly drag out the trip. No I don't just mean the after effects.

Keep on eating 10-strips off untested batches and we'll see how long that lasts...
On one level I think, "Good for you, nobody deserves a bad trip."
But then again I believe bad trips are inevitable... especially if you are cocky, eat large doses frequently, and ignore the teachings given you by previous trips.

125ug is enough to give me a +++ trip, lasting 10-16 hours, with beautiful visuals and lessons. Perhaps try gaining more from less.

And for the record you obviously have no idea how many micrograms are on the "strongest shit".