drop outs?

Dropping out, although lowers your chances of being successful in life, doesn't mean your living with your parents when you 35 and have no job, actually there are so many opportunities for drop outs.

First off any technical college will accept a person as long as they have their G.E.D diploma, do you know what that means, you can become a carpenter, plumber, electrician, mason, roofer, and make 40 to 60 dollars an hour once you get your necessary degree in that field. Thats good money, money you can make a good living off of.

I mean does anyone actually need a masters degree in philosophy to be a carpenter? To be a plumber? I don't think so and you can be making a hell of a lot more money then some brainiac at some library, you can guarantee that.

 

Dude, you can do Anything with a GED. I'm going to be a Botanist which is a scientist!

i dropped out, got my GED, started in community college, and I'm going to be a freekin scientist... :H

 

Yeah... I've actually been considering something like that. I'm going to PM you or something sometime, when I remember. You seem to always be in the same situations I'm in.

 

if you finish highschool, you get money. if you dont, you make less. if you drop out, how are you gonna get pot when your 30.

 

Well... for one, that's the same vague, broad, standardized, and generalized answer that everyone has been giving (surprise--it's the same method you're being taught to learn in the average public school system.. surely we have faith in the mentality that anyone can be paid to repeat opinionless/feelingles sentences over and over without being granted bonus or incentive for going above and beyond bare expectations and necessities and administering standardized tests). Most states don't allow you to just "drop out", these days. If you mean that most people are too lazy to get off of their asses and do something different or continue their education... then the answer could possibly be yes, I agree with you. (not all of them have a choice, as well as the not all of them actually care)

But, most people who haven't been there or done it typically offer the same broad perspective which is kinda anological to saying we're still in Iraq because we're looking to find Saddam Hussein and instate democracy to the people while finding weapons of mass destruction... which we all know, wether we agree to anything or not, is to hypothetically become a steaming, heaping, massive pile of beureaucratic horse shit, as we know it. (oh come on, you know it's just as true as the sky is blue)

There are several options and variables. Some of them are pointless, some of them are illogical (*cough*most), the least that I can say is that the programs don't always exist solely for your own personal benefit. A few of the subsidized pseudo-helpers are only there to create potential job positions.

And the answer to your question, if all Hell breaks loose and your last straw is blown like dust in the wind--learn to grow (cannabis, a garden, spiritually, mentally, physically... in all contexts); learn to think for yourselves for once, love others before yourself, but take care of yourself before you take care of others, and do your best to create your own personal division from the masses of Eurocentric-leaned drunken teachings of Babyloniousness.

 

the bottom line is, comparing yourself to others in highschool who graduated, how you are doing compared to them

i guarantee you that 85%+ are doing better off then any select person who dropped out

not that i can relate because i would say 85%+ of my graduating class went straight into post-secondary education, so i dont know what it's like when half your school is dropping out *cough* American School System *cough*

 

85 percent, thats quite the estimate, especially when you figure most of america is lower middle class/poor and can't afford college or a higher education then high school. So you figure that lets say the majority of americans are high school diploma/G.E.D.(almost the same exact meaning)and below and working trades or service jobs.

And since I am talking about America then you would have to assume a huge amount of its citizens are working service jobs(mcdonalds,burger king,wendys)because thats pretty much all America has to offer to highschool diploma and below with the exception of a trade(carpenter,plumber,electrician,etc. And everyone else or the remaining minority of america would be college degree or above, working very important jobs, making large amounts of money. Thats how I look at it.

 

Actually while most American's can't afford college when going, most still do go on student loans, and community college is there for those who don't want the big loans to pay off or for those who didn't make the grades in high school. Even state school's are affordable to the lower class, I'm pretty lower class and go to a state school, and because of our income level I got the max out of the pell grant, after 4 years of school without any other scholarships or what not I'd still only owe about $7-8,000 in loans with a degree from a pretty decent state school. Unless you need to work full time or more and don't have the time to go to school, money is never really a good excuse for not being able to go to some kind of higher education.

 

Funny... they seem to appear to want to breed moreso of the CEO crowd these days (going to have to have someone to hold the reins of the lower class and third world, eh?)

 

That's what I'm getting at... there are several categories and stereotypes to place people who dropped out, into, and many run along those same lines.

In fact, a lady at a university (the college of william and mary) I'm looking at right now didn't even get her GED till she went into community college and was in the same situation with pell grants...

 

ok...
i had 3 best friends in high school, and they all graduated... i dropped out and got my GED.

one of them took her diploma and went on to Brown U, then dropped out after a month, and is now in cosmetology school.

another one took his diploma, and does absolutely nothing... at all.. and is planing to go to massage therapy school.

the last one took her diploma and went to community college, she wants to be a teacher.

i took my GED and went to community college, i want to be a botanist.

so, i am doing as well, if not better than all 3 of my best friends who graduated.

 

^ BUT...all 3 have better credentials in the end

if one of the three wanted to become a bontanist as well, do u not think that somone with a highschool diploma will be taken over somone with their GED with comparable grades and stats for post education?

 

Depends on the occupation field and what the job position is.

Alot of employers prefer people who go out in search of something that works for them rather than having employees that had everything they needed handed to them. To some, it represents ambition, to others it represents failure. It's just that people have opinions that seem to be misconceptions when they've never done it... or just decided to rather piss around instead of doing something, in that situation.

Yes, we understand that all of this you're speaking of represents a general public and views of the general public, but you can't make squares fit into triangular slots or vice versa. It's really not that complex... I simply tend to work better without the obligations and standardized processes of subsidization, as I have more control over my situation and have the ability to analyze things... rather than making someone else control and analyze it, along with fourty others' situations.

To me, it's not just about getting out, it's about an overhaul of the entire system and I've considered going into education before because of it, that and money really isn't a big deal to me when kids are being taught such halfassed curriculum... and it's not just that, but the leanings and all the bullshit involved to not piss off northerners and southerners when you're writing eurocentric history books, and the details left out on more important things when you have one school district paying or lobbying a publisher to put their district's details into a textbook...

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teach..._bbs_sr_1/103-0249346-6430270?ie=UTF8&s=books

One of many books partially geared toward the subject.

(and if anyone does click that, remember... there's no such thing as being politically correct because politics was never correct in the first place. Only historically correct.)

 

^ so to put that information into them through homeschooling, you think thats a fair trade off to the countless other knowledge they will achieve through more varried subjects and experiance which you could not provide?

 

It depends on what it really means to you and how you view it... If telling someone there's a waterfall in Jamestown, Virginia, because the disney film has it in there, is truthful, so be it.

But that doesn't mean the fall line isn't 50 miles down the river and there are no waterfalls in Jamestown, Virginia.

That's what it leads to....