Trying to copy a DVD to a DVD pricisely without a computer is a pain. I usually use DVD Decryptor and Shrink and they work wonders! Once upon a time then DVD players still cost $400 and my computer was good for nothing, I pluged the AV cables from the DVD player into the VCR and just copied it to a VHS. The quality wasn't very good but it worked painlessly. Then there's always the alternative of actually buying the DVDs.
right right well i tried figuring my buds stand alone dvd copier out for him so i could use it at well but just couldnt swing it so im back at square one once again so i should use dvd shrink and encrypter?