eating meat

I'm a big softie and animal lover. Even cows. I know it is the way of the world for species to devour each other, but it's still really hard.

 

I think it's a mess of a topic. I know people with different diets who are very healthy. We can all make different points about why we should or shouldn't eat different things and those points can be disputed by people with different experiences. There is so much more to consider besides the single variable of whether a person eats meat or which kind.

I love eating steak, pork, chicken and fish (I don't eat hotdogs, lunch meats, etc) I also was a vegetarian for some time. I didn't notice much of a difference in my performance except for maybe my first 2 weeks of being a vegetarian. I lost a few pounds in that 2 weeks but I got it back and got back to normal. I will say that I felt a little lighter and less lethargic (for lack of better terms?) as a vegetarian but I can also say that now regarding really unhealthy stuff. I never eat fast foods and if I did, I would feel it in a matter of 30 minutes or so.

It's really almost pointless to debate IMO because each persons experience and effort is so much different.

 

i'll occasionally eat a meal without meat in it. and then i get really hungry again 30 minutes later.

 

So true....and I could not slaughter any animal. I could not even kill a fish, so where does that leave me here? I can live without the red meat and practically am....and white meat, too ...the foul....
I go in restaurants and see the lobster in tanks in the front and it makes me sad every time. They are all lined up waiting for their execution......

 

Eating meat is not necessary at all, and it makes me sad when people don't see viable options to eating it.

I don't hate people that eat meat, though. And people that want to eat it because they like the taste...at least they are being honest, I guess.

Factory farms, however are a fucking disgrace, and each and every person who buys factory farmed meat should be ashamed and embarrassed.

 

I don't like the taste of meat, though...LOL....I always had to drown it in tons of A1 to like it....so that is what I know...amd so do not need to eat meat at all, anymore...

 

I've recently cut meat out my diet as a bit of an experiment.. and I can say I'm probably gonna keep it this way. I have so much more energy, feel lighter on my feet, and even my thoughts seem a little clearer(?).
I love meat, really fuckin' love it.. but it's just so heavy, and really sedates you after eating as your body has to work extra hard to break down those solid proteins.

I recommend giving it a 2 week trial period. You'll notice something after a week, but it's definitely noticeable after 2.

 

I'm pretty sure I eat meat at least once a day.
Even if it's a simple chick wrap for lunch. I don't really care what people have to say about that. I enjoy it, it's doing me well.

 

i eat most things that don't eat me furst. unless its something i've over eaten some point in the past. or an actual poison, or an accumulative one.

when people had to kill and butcher their own meat themselves, it played a much less prominent role in their diet (hollywood's misrepresentations of hunting and gathering aside).

was it a healthier diet? i don't know. medicine was less advanced, so a meaningful comparison would be difficult to make.

i'm mostly convinced its healthier for the mind to not take things for granted. and to thank the spirit of the kind of animal you eat for letting you gain life from its substance.

yes meat is a kind of murder. everything that has a central nervious system experiences every emotion you are capable of feeling yourself. at the same time though, this is not an unnatural thing in any way.

when people lived closer to the land, the could see the practical reality of that every day.

to eat meat or not to eat meat, is a personal thing, like any other belief.

i would prefer not to be someone eles's lunch, but i'm probably old and stringy and not very tender anyway.

and i do eat meat. and i do like it. and i also eat a lot of other things, and i like each of them too.

i would rather eat cloned cells, then meat from feed lots. that's my moral take on it. i like to think that is what other species would tell us if they could. the meat of the day from the resteraunt at the end of the universe aside.

 

Yes... and among other 'benefits' of living in a wealthy 1st world country are extremely high rates of cancer, cardio-vascular diseases and diabetes. Make the correlation. There's a reason these are called 'western diseases'.


Meat is not only not necessary but detrimental to our health.
And plant proteins are 100% complete. With all the information out there, it's hard to believe people still buy the myth that only animal proteins are complete. Actually the person who first said that, later admitted that they were wrong (i forgot the name), yet people still believe it.

Humans are natural herbivores. But even if you don't believe that, and you think humans are omnivores, you should know that true omnivores can live both on 100% meat diets and 100% plant diets and still get all their nutritional requirements. Therefore, even if human were omnivores (which they are not) they could still live perfectly without meat.

 

CAN get: yes. are likely to, simply by not eating meat: no.

also as far as natural, omnivours, as in omni, meaning all, means eating a diversity of nearly everything that don't eat us fusrt.

an all meat diet would certainly be just as unhealthy, no argument there, but the claim that there is anything unnatural about eating SOME meat, is simply and totally false.

 

Why not? Meat gives us nothing we can't get from plant foods. Of course it depends on what you eat.. If you just eat fries and junk food all day, sure you're not going to get what you need..

 

I disagree with you. But I'm not going to argue about that. I just said that if you believe we are omnivores, you should know that plant diets provide you with all nutritional requirements, therefore meat is unnecessary.
Eat what you want. I'm just saying that even if humans were omnivores, meat wouldn't be NECESSARY. Just answering the question.

 

because meat gives us three distinct and essential protean groups, which, while each can be found in some plant protiens, there are no single sorces of plant protien that give us all three.

thus, a HEALTHY meatless diet, requires A DIVERSITY of plant nutrition sources. that's what i mean by JUST not eating meat, isn't going to automatically do it.

eating small amounts of some meat, is much simpler for the majority of people of no more then average intelligence.

 

Of course a healthy meatless diet requires a diversity of plant nutrition sources... ANY diet should also include a diversity of plant nutrition sources! :daisy:

 

thank you, yes, that was my point.

i knew someone personally in real life, who was rather extremely unhealthy, precisely because they misunderstood, that very point.

so i really think it is important for people to understand, that JUST not eating meat, isn't going to magically make them healthy.

(obviously anyone who ate ONLY meat, and only one or a few kinds of it at that, would also have the same kind of problems.)

 

Yes, I agree with that.

 

I haven't ate meat in 10 years and hopefully will never again. If civilization were to collapse however, I think that would change. We would all be hunter gatherer's again...

 

Not true.

 

Correlation does not equate to causation. Critical thinking 101.

I don't think anything you wrote here is accurate. Just the usual dim-witted vegan propaganda we've been hearing for ages.

The notion that humans are "natural herbivores" has been disproven time and time again. But really, it cannot even be "disproven" since it was never proven to begin with. There is absolutely no proof of this being true. There is absolutely no proof of any civilization, at any time throughout documented history, that has survived for multiple generations on a solely plant-based diet. That is a fact!

The western diseases you refer to are the result of diets high in sugar, grains, starch, white flour, trans fats and other processed, heavily refined foods -- not meat. People ate meat long before western diets came about, and they didn't suffer from things like heart disease, diabetes and cancer. This fact alone proves your theory wrong.

The Inuits ate diets consisting of almost all meat, and they were extremely healthy (heart disease was non-existent) before the standard western diet of processed foods overtook their traditional diets.