Ebola In The Media

I found something concerning some German doctors who believe that the CDC is wrong in their assessment of when an infected person is contagious:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/ebola-victims-without-symptoms-could-still-be-contagious/

 

yikes. Well, that sucks.

 

Please People, let's not fight here. What ever ebola is or is not. I has hit us like a wave of SARS, Bird Flue, Jaunta Virus (or whatever you call it) and Denge all at once. It does seem to spread with little contact. It does kill 90% of its victims. Let's watch and listen and learn what we need to do to stop it. Think about all the powerless people in Africa who cannot do anything about it.

 

Oh great, now Jesse Jackson is stepping to exploit Duncan's death to play the race card again.... Typical.

 

The 2nd nurse's plane made several flights before being decontaminated which shouldn't be a problem if you believe everything the CDC is saying on that subject.

Here are the flight numbers for the trips the plane made after dropping the patient off in Dallas:
Dallas to Cleveland - Frontier flight 2042
Cleveland to Ft. Lauderdale - Frontier flight 1104
Ft. Lauderdale to Cleveland - Frontier flight 1105
Cleveland to Atlanta - Frontier flight 1101 (landed in Atlanta at 9:07 p.m.)
Atlanta to Cleveland - Frontier flight 1100 (left Atlanta at 9:57 p.m.)

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/2nd-texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola/nhjck/

 

wrong, it is spread through direct contact with the infected persons bodily fluids or tissues, not casual contact or proximity, so your comparisons are ludicrous and naive'. The only remote possibility would be if an infected person were bitten by the correct species of bat (the suspected host of the virus) and then if that bat then bit and infected other mammals or people. but that is very highly unlikely to happen in North America.

from the World Health Organization;
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Transmission
It is thought that fruit bats of the Pteropodidae family are natural Ebola virus hosts. Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals such as chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest.
Ebola then spreads through human-to-human transmission via direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and with surfaces and materials (e.g. bedding, clothing) contaminated with these fluids.
Health-care workers have frequently been infected while treating patients with suspected or confirmed EVD. This has occurred through close contact with patients when infection control precautions are not strictly practiced.
Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola.
People remain infectious as long as their blood and body fluids, including semen and breast milk, contain the virus. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness

honestly if you guys are going to keep these threads alive at the very least educate yourselves at least a little about the topic at hand, geeeez.

 

This is what I tried to report several pages back. It's a vocabulary technicality.

The researchers found that a patient showing no symptoms of the disease can still transmit a virus like Ebola by air if droplets containing the virus are transmitted to another person by a sneeze or cough.

As WND reported Tuesday, the World Health Organization has admitted that “wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently could transmit the Ebola virus over a short distance to another nearby person.”

WHO said it could happen when “virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person.”

Still, WHO added a qualification, insisting the transmission of Ebola by sneezing or coughing is not within its definition of airborne transmission.


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06-october-2014/en/

 

See my above post about Ebola transmission via large droplets.

You're going to have to calm down and stop attempting to strike down everyone else's comments. Consider this a warning. Play nice.

 

I'm quoting fact from reputable sources that corrects and clarifies others incorrect comments.
How is that to be construed as attacking or is it because I'm not in complete agreement and citing valid reasons to support my position rather than emotionally laden opinion and speculative conjecture?

 

Apparently, you are not participating when other links are shared.

A more recent citation, from your source - the WHO, was linked and apparently you didn't go over it or you would clearly not have made the claim that you are the only one posting ruputable sources.

Besides, this thread isn't necessarily about citing only reputable sources. It's about Ebola and how it is being handled in the media - well, poorly, or otherwise. Read the title and the original post. It's not a contest that anyone can win with the correct "position".

I've asked you repeatedly to slow down, calm down, etc; and to stop attacking others in this thread.

It is an attack, in this thread, for you to call anyone "naive" or to make any other derogatory remarks toward them.

The end.

 

I'm not sure how to feel about Ebola. I think that the media is giving it a lot of coverage, and it's definitely spreading fear. Is it warranted (for Western countries). I'm not sure. I hope not.

 

Of course you're not sure.

None of "us" are.

We are fed what we are fed.

 

I've met a quite a few people who seem to feel pretty sure.

 

It does have my attention. With this latest poor nurse, who took two plane rides...Who knows who she may have sneezed on or kissed in her travels......etc., etc.....

 

Storch, I just had an opportunity to finish reading the entire article.

Thanks for posting that.

 

All day long it's been said, by the CDC, that the 2nd nurse knew she had a fever and should not have flown...said, like it was her fault.

When, it turns out that it was "a US Health Official" who told her that she could get on the flight with the fever because it was 99.5F and the CDCs threshold is 100.4F.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-second-ebola-patient-20141015-story.html#page=1

 

You are the one who is wrong. I heard the White Man's Truth on the television set. They said it can be spread by air-born vectors. German doctors are now saying the contaigious term can start two days before a person develops fever. And the virus can be spread 42 days after the survivor had beaten the virus. The US government has been giving wrong information, as in 21 days to transmist and direct not casual contact.

 

I think we in the west can count ourselves lucky. Where it comes to ebola in the media I'm still mostly interested in how it goes in west-Africa. I guess the media hype about how dangerous it is for us here (in Europe) is a bit over its top. There's still news about people returning from west Africa and quarantine etc. (which is just normal journalism, nothing overhyped imo) but there is at least as much attention for training centres for people that go TO west Africa and how to contain the epidemic over there. How is that over there in the US media?

 

You owe it to us to provide references so we can double-check. Otherwise, why should we believe the "White Man's Truth"? And what the hell does that mean, anyway?

 

This is what I went and found when I searched:

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What is CDC doing in the U.S. about the outbreak in West Africa?
CDC has activated its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to help coordinate technical assistance and control activities with partners. CDC has deployed several teams of public health experts to the West Africa region and plans to send additional public health experts to the affected countries to expand current response activities. http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/qa.html