Economic collapse immanent?

again... http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ This goes beyond theory...


(Quote from an earlier post) "In the 70s mass people thought the oil peak was here and went hiding in the woods until they got board and hungry."

Oil production in the USA *DID* peak in the 70's... that's when we started buying LOTS more foreign oil... (hmm... I wonder why there's so much war going on in the region of the world with most of what oil is left)

The problem with oil is that we keep using more of it... since the 1950s our consumption of oil has *DOUBLED* every 10 years...

this stuff goes way beyond theory... but you have to look at the information available... not that it's on the front pages of the news paper, or on tv, since those are all owned or financed by the people at the top who would like to keep you out of the know....

love and light

 

I’ve seen zeitgeistmovie.com/ and tons of other books movie theories ect.

A person could spend a life time in conspiracy theories a lot of people think peak oil is a conspiracy..

You just have to look at a lot of sources and decide what YOU believe.

But people will ALWAYS be calling the end of the world forever. It is rather boring after a while.

 

My best suggestion is to get out of cities, and get involved in a community which is already working towards sustainability... there's already plenty rainbow places like this... I'm not too familiar with what's happening in the NE so I can't give you anything specific... follow your knows

 

I don't have much patience for conspiracies myself....

my best information tells me that I'd better be ready for anything and everything...

complacency is not going to be helpful here...

I'm on the road, and as long as there are still vehicles I can hitch rides on I feel safe knowing many places throughout the country which are living sustainably, or close enough for me... one thing I've focused on this summer is cultivating my wild foraging skills...

I'm the kind of person who doesn't believe it's going to rain untill it hits me on the head... but if it's looking cloudy, I like to be close to shelter...

 

ok guys thanx for the responses. get out get out get out seems like the 3 signs i keep seeing everywhere. so i suppose a small bug out bag with things like a toothbrush, batteries, flashlight, and things to barter with. maybe some silver. it would be nice to connect with some folks who are practicing living sustainably and practicing foraging skills. why is everyone just sitting there while they are just blatently suggesting in your face that there will be some sort of generated catastrophic event. yes i did hear what joe biden and mr. collen powell said yesterday .they are telling us what is going to happen and my family still thinks the the corperation called the united states is going to take care of them. take care of you it will, from the cradle to the grave. this is just too much, conspiracy fact not conspiracy theory. and zeitgeist 2 is out and i've seen it....sounds good, i'd be interested the the venus project as long as they didn't get too dogmatic and try to make a religion out of it. still looking for direction. any more advice would be good advice. thanx and blessings to you all. i love you. as above so below, as within so without

 

my thoughts on "conspiracies".

its now irrelevant if the conspiracies are true,it no longer matters if this was orchestrated or not. IT IS HAPPENING!!

the time has come to no longer focus on educating people on the shadow government and there goals.the time to prepare is upon us.

we shouldnt be suggesting folks watch or read things that most find to far fetched to believe,we should be showing them the proof thats out there of our imminent economic collapse and now these warnings that our leaders are talking about.
we should be encouraging folks to prepare for what is to come,not waste our energy on something that when it comes down to it,cant be proven..

that being said i encourage all to take steps to prepare for whas coming.
i posted this in another thread and just remembered it and so i will repost it here in hopes it will help those in the cities.

1. Use your own observations of any unusual activity around financial institutions, ATM's, food retailers, fuel outlets, camping stores and gun retailers.
Things to look for are long lines, restrictions on purchases, retail stock levels, any additional security, private or otherwise around retailers, utilities and specific state and Fed government buildings and installations.
Any unusual or increased road traffic both civilian, police and military.

2. Know where your family and friends are at all times, have contingency plans in place and rehearse them. Have safe places planned in case they cannot get home or you lose contact with them.

3. Find alternate road routes from the normal highways and main roads, practice using them night and day from both directions.

4. Have ready cash on hand, as much as you can get. Profiteers will reduce your buying power.

5. Buy extra prescription and over the counter medication.

6. Keep your fuel tanks topped up, and additional fuel in storage.

7. Keep a small back pack close at hand in your vehicle with basic essentials in case you have to abandon your vehicle and walk to a pre designated safe place or home.

8. Review and rehearse your home security, emergency lighting, alternate cooking, heating options and, evacuation (last option)

9. Know how to safely get home on foot if transportation fails.

10. Use what ever and all information resources at your disposal to keep appraised of the situation.

11. Other last minute preps, prioritize and act on them.

12. Have at least 7 days non perishable food and drinking water on hand. (preferably a 30 day supply.)

13.In the event of power outage,Consume your perishable refrigerated food first and ration it, don't over consume it.

What ever you do, don't panic. It is highly infectious and is counter productive in a situation where calm logic is essential.

PS. just to lighten up a bit, lots of toilet paper please.

I sincerely hope these thoughts have been beneficial to someone out there concerned with the possibilities that could arise from our current situation.
If anyone cares to add to the list please feel free to do so as im sure i left something out..

 

I got somethings to add.. crank radios and crank flashlights.. no batteries.. dried foods/freeze dried//vacumed sealed.. light and easy to store..walkie talkies (crankup), compus.. maybe one that is made into a waterproof watch... I would suggest that ppl get a few books on survival and Read them and have them with your gear so you can use them as refference.. get light ones, paperback.. and put them in a plastic bag.. go to the Army/Navy store and buy survival gear/boots ect.. they're made well and holds up better.. and all that what HHB said..

 

more tips for city folks.
a blog from someone who lived through the argentina collapse in buenos aires.while i dont agree with everything he says because i think we are of a different culture he has a wealth of knowledge to share.

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

ideas for a bug out bag,
http://www.backpackfever.com/2007/08/28/bugout-bag-faq/
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/72hourkit/

urban survival essentials..

http://www.kingsley-hughes.com/outdoors/bushcraft/survival/ten_essential_survival_items.php

 

I am sure you guys can tell by my posts that I am skeptical about conspiracy theories; I’m not saying they are not true, large amounts of them unravel and do turn out to be true factual conspiracies.

But I do believe that we will have a Large economic depression I have watch a lot of very reputable financial people talk about this and predict it years ago. Most financial experts being realistic agree that a lot of other factors are going to unravel.
Not just unemployed janitors or bi polar guys in moms basement ranting about conspiracy theories but very experienced financial experts that have studied the financial markets for years.

Marc Faber, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Chris Martenson to name a small few all have a predicted this years ago and have a good realistic take on it or google “economic bubble”.

I live in a small city in a small apartment and usually have 1-month worth of food, now I have 1-year worth of food.
Realistically stores could start getting shipments disrupted due to financial disturbances.

I think it is good to have a months worth of food,
enough sleeping gear to stay warm without heat,
a small stove that will burn on multi fuels,
a few bic lighters
5 gallon bucket,
a gallon of bleach for emergency disinfectant for water or cuts,
some cash maybe a little gold or silver jewelry.
That is just a cheap crude basic worst-case help kit.

If stores do run out of stuff for a week or 2 it would be nice not to have to stand in lines to fight over food.
I have lived in countries that were very unstable and had economic collapses before it’s not the end of the world it just make life difficult and more challenging.

I do think we will have some exciting times and changes unravel in the near future just by the way things are going lately.

 

There's no other time I'd rather be alive...

the time is now, and as things get worse, we as a family have the opportunity to shine our light and spread love....

I'm not a fear mongerer... to tell you the truth, I am a little bit afraid... but what's more important than that

I have Faith, and I have Love...

Peace will overcome!

wake up family... time to shine!

 

serious about what,hard times on a scale not seen since the great depression falling on generations of people who have as a majority never had it tough in there lives?

oh yes i for one am deadly serious..

 

LOL

Im loving this idea


Although I do believe a collapse is imminent
I think it would be a structured collapse designed to give the right people the right power at the right time

 

goes back to what zihger was saying,as big of a mess as this is,the best laid plans have no guarantee of working..
sure they may have overlooked the derivatives market with a plan in mind but now that its unraveling its a sure bet that NOTHING will go as planned..

 

True but there always is that possibility that everything plays right into the hands of the people with control. It would be amazing if all the shit just backfired on them. We could see the yolk on their faces at that point

We can now only sit back and send out or positive energy

 

if we make it through the 2 weeks surrounding the elections without a police state... then we should be "ok" at least untill next summer...

what I'm thinking... is that if industrial society is collapsing... and it's been killing the earth... and we LOVE the earth, right? what are we going to do to save her children (the forests and the animals and the fish)?

do we have to wait for it to collapse? to save the earth? how many more will die while we're waiting for society to fall apart?

maybe this is a different thread...

 

We ALREADY live in a police state!

 

I for one say that if Babylon is falling... she might need a push or two in the right direction...

David-thankfull has no intentions of simply sitting back and sending out positive engergy

 

I agree, a barter system alright, I live in Baltimore, they're cutting everything out, get prepared, store water for heaven's sake, we can't live without water. People are scared over what is going on, not only in the family. We have to get Rainbow land, and survie for what is coming I'm thinking. I have a tent and sleeping bag, but what is it going to take. What are we going to do. What about the poor, anyways???

 

stay close to your food source... know your food source... grow your food source...

are you dependant on babylon for your sustinance??? *they* aren't going to feed you...

 

i didnt imply anything..