Einstiens Theory of Relativity?

It simplifies electromagnetism and gravity to one simple equation except on the quantum level (where quantum mechanics step in)

We get it......

 

I forgot about this thread.

 

recently ive been thinkning that special relativity may be an illusion, but its just a thought.

like, due to the fact that electromagnetic radiation has a limited speed, and that the fastest, most precise form of observation is in fact electromagnetic radiation, there is going to be a discrepency in the nature of observation through electromagnetic radiation. i might have missed something but im going to look into it. because in terms of actually measuring time, there has only been a very tiny discrepency in the times of an object moving relatively fast compared to one relatively stationary.

i dunno, i jsut think that special relativeity may apply to observation, and not to reality.

 

Voodoo!

 

oh and in terms of space travel, i think our best bet is somehow inhabiting the other planets on our solar system. setting up space stations on mars would be the best step. then eventually the atmosphere of mars could be changed slowly, and eventually well be able to live on mars and earth. but i dont think any other planets would work, cept maybe moons of saturn or jupiter.

i wanna know why humans havnt started burrowing into the ground. like we all wanna build sky scrapers to fit more people.. why not dig into the ground? no sunlight.. but its safe from falling over, and also from a number of air-attacks. we need to fit more people so the poorer areas should build down as well as up, to fit their population. unfortunately, its more expensive to build down.

 

You wait it is going to be proven wrong in a few years

 

ancient societies used to build down..... and now our leaders hide from the sun in bunkers built to shield themselves when they get us nooked.....

 

this is a little off topic but i have a question. i saw this show on the history channel about how we might reach other planets with life on them, and some scientist said that since it's impossible to reach the speed of light so any human would die before he could go far enough through space.
but if we got close enough to the speed of light, and so the relative time slowed down couldn't they still get lightyears away and only age a few hours?

i don't really understand the quantum theory and relativity very well having done only minimal study of it, but it's pretty fascinating.

 

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<< quest techie, other long story....

someone (heisenburg? totally guessing there) sugested that examining a particle changed it, so I suppose that that idea does stem from that....

and that it might particularly have merit, I mean take a piece of raw natural uranium and put it near a crt, you get stuff like gauss just different.....

as for monitor gauss

sorry These are my convoluded ways of getting from point A to point B and they're happening all over the table.....

 

general relativity was challeneged by special relativity when it was observed that observations were different when moving at differnet relative velocities.

general relativity works on logic, whereas special relativity works on observation.
it is therefor special relativity's onus of proof that the logic of general relativity is only apparent on the earth scale that we are on.!

could be wrong, could be right, but so far special relativity has not found its way into application...

or has it? if it has can you show me please

 

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Also synchronise two atomic clocks then take one on a lane journey and they are no longer synchronised. SR and GR are both accurate the only question is that are they a small scale approximation to a larger theory that only becomes apparent on galactic scales this if of course one way out of the dark matter issue.

 

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Ok but see this is all observation. If special relativity is simply an observational illusion (which i consider it so), then its not really the physics of the object, but purely the physics of the observation.

 

The effects of SR have to be considered by GPS satellites due to the very high degree of synchronisation. Its also key in some parts of quantum theory, I wont go into the maths (i may make a fool of myself) but the Dirac equation uses SR to bring spin into a theoretical framework instead of just being an experimental oddity. Infact its been fully absorbed into QED, one of the most successful theories ever formulated.

SR and GR are very similar. General relativity is not different to special relativity, it is an extension of it. Special relativity is easy to understand to anyone reasonably good at maths its conceptually far harder than it is mathematically. However it only considers constant speeds. General relativity takes into account accelerating inertial reference frames and then wanders off into gravitational field theory. However it is imporant to remember that they are consisten theories, you cant pick and choose.

 

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well, i think its totally real phenomenom but im still not convinced that all of the observed affects of fast moving objects are physichal changes in relative time/length of object, etc

 

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