Elite Does believe in Global warming...Why?

1. some of that stuff looks pretty tasty
2. Hell yes

 

I'm pretty sure those particular hand signs mean I Love You. It's classic sign language. Without the thumb it means devil horns, or something like that. But still, signs are signs. They always mean something, or else people wouldn't be doing it.

 

They're trying to make people like Rat look ridicilous :biggrin:

 

There's a video out there in video land somewhere of GWB Sr specifically mentioning "new world order".

 

yes, thank you. I should have stated that our present cultural interpretation of the Biblical idea of the "end times". You are correct that the original text isn't as explicit, but the way it has been presented and manifested in modern culture sure does sound a hell of a lot like all this "New World Order" stuff being thrown around.


and what is so bad about a centralized world government anyway??
Again, I feel the only reason it is generally portrayed as something "evil" goes directly back to the ideas presented in the Bible.

But pragmatically a one world government is the ultimate logical choice if the world is going to continue on a "forward" path.
The only real alternative at this stage of the game with instant communications and fast, reliable travel would be another global conflict as we fight over imaginary lines in the sand, but there is nowhere else to go.

 

uhhmm, ok, and your point is.......

 

That's because most people read the Bible backwards (Revelations first!!).

 

Don't be rude with me.

I responded to your question to Asmo: "Asmo, please direct me to another widely known source for this idea of an evil one world government."

GWB Sr is the answer.

 

I tend to think that the deep mistrust of the formation of global governance is likely a bit misguided, in terms of how profound the fear of it is. But at the same time I am also open to the ideas that people like Pressed Rat put out and I am not certain to which side I feel a stronger pull; I suppose it's equal in either direction and I tend to grow disinterested.

A lot of the mistrust seem to me like knee-jerk reactions to an increasingly complex world and the hope that some entity is in control upon which to place blame, but I have researched the topic and it's history fairly extensively and I can also understand where a lot of the fear and suspicion comes from. I do suppose that certain things which are believed by so many people (many of whom embrace as absolute facts) must have some basis in truth, and so more than likely it is (as usual) far more complicated than it seems. In other words, a little bit of both (i.e. totally out of control, but powerful people are trying to gain some control). I'm also in line with Rat's thinking about ancient civilizations which may have surpassed our own in terms of technology and medicine and so on, have been erased from memory and from the Earth, so I guess anything is possible.

 

I think one assumption that is made concerning my posts about these topics is that I haven't taken a look and I'm just being a trollish dick.
Truth of the matter is that I began looking into this type of crap well over 35 years ago and do actually check out the references others provide.
Same goes for gun laws, but that's another thread.
It is on that basis that I make my statements, not from a basis of complete ignorance of the topic.

Many ancient cultures hold that the Earth has gone through "stages" and more than a few say we are currently in the fifth and final stage before something big hits the fan. LOL
Only three of those epochs are mentioned in the Bible. The pre-flood epoch (which if looked at carefully was a lot different then the world we enjoy now), the epoch we are currently in and the "final" one after the second coming and all that good stuff.
At least that seems to be the generally accepted time-line in Christianity.
Some cultures also hold that these epochs are 5,000 years in length, which is interesting because if we assume that the current epoch began after "the flood" and we think we are at the end of the it, then that 5,000 year cycle "fits".

All conjecture and an example of the type of things that could easily be taken to the next step and be considered "truth".

 

As far as I'm concerned, we've been in the stage of the Second Coming .. has already begun and is not finished yet.

The first instance of Christ on Earth brought about a change in "time" (BC / AD). We've just completed a time cycle (synchronicity):

01/01/01
02/02/02
03/03/03
04/04/04
05/05/05
06/06/06
07/07/07
08/08/08
09/09/09
10/10/10
11/11/11
12/12/12

The so-called Mayan prophecy was NOT the only prophecy. It's obvious that we're currently sitting directly in a shift of time.

In 2009 I drew out a calendar until I got to 2020. I automatically thought of 20/20 vision, commonly thought to mean "perfect vision". I thought .. it is possible that all of the changes we've been going through will reach a final balance by the year 2020. It may be idealistic thinking but it definitely gave me much needed optimism, which got me through the past few years.

The Return of Christ is to judge. If what we've been going through is a period of "justice" (changes, adjustments) then imagining the scales in balance by the year 2020 just makes me feel good.

 

My best guess is there are different and sometimes opposing "Elites" with different agendas.In my op I was just throwing out an idea I had to add something to the mix of general incomprehensibility...Ancient Chinese man say "I have absolutely no fucking idea"..

 

sig worthy...

 

Get your facts straight, it was a japanese who said that!

 

Past behavior usually predicts future behavior. The struggle for power over others is ageless. The facet of human behavior that enables this desire, regardless of the methods used, is ongoing. From clubs and rocks to H-bombs,etc. The current struggles for land/power are facilitated handily by those for whom the lust for riches is ALL that matters. There is no empathy-there is no sympathy-there is only the desire for absolute power and control. Therefore, if global climate change is in any way conducive to the slowing of the further transfer of the global wealth to the tiny minority for whom it benefits----then of course it has to be bullshit and it also has to be constantly parroted to forestall any action whatsoever. Evidently, no one is supposed to pay any attention to world scientific bodies in this day and age of Fox "news" and the oil-sucking Kochs.

 

I listen to the scientists and the facts and never to people with agendas....
I do belive we have global warming due to what we do.....
Pollutions of the airs and waters is very real.

 

Scientist often have their own agenda as well, Moonglow. Hope you are aware of that.

 

Well, at least the ones the Kochs pay for. If a scientist has an agenda--he's not a scientist. He's a shill.

 

Words can be treacherous sometimes when you strictly go by the definition. Science is a good example. It is great for sure but just because something is scientific doesn't mean it can't be a disaster, plain evil or both.

 

That fuckin' Dr Moreau certainly proved that!